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Lebron with 31/10/5...heat still lose
i keep hearing he played "average". those numbers are better than jordan's career playoff numbers. better than kobe's career average in the finals.
you give bron any semblance of help, and he wins another title. the 90's bulls? they still go 6/6 (jordan stans love bringing him up, but lebron had nowhere near the help or coaching jordan did)
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Caped Baldy
Re: Lebron with 31/10/5...heat still lose
Help? LOL dude, he is the most helped superstar of all time. It happens when you turn your superstar team mates into spot up shooters. Lebron's game make his team mates worst. Dribble the ball for 20 seconds, with 4 seconds left on the shot clock pass to team mate.
His stats look good on paper but if you see him play, he has no impact.
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Re: Lebron with 31/10/5...heat still lose
28+ PER and he had no impact? you're an idiot.
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National High School Star
Re: Lebron with 31/10/5...heat still lose
Originally Posted by mehyaM24
28+ PER and he had no impact? you're an idiot.
Lebron left cleveland cuz he NEEDED more help
He lost twice with that HELP he got
and now his teamamtes suck again??
Bosh and Wade were all stars thsi year. no excuses
"Lebron makes his teamates so much better "
oh does he?
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Rose is not a HOF
Re: Lebron with 31/10/5...heat still lose
Stats reminds me of MJ before he got thru the bad boys.
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#1 Spurs Fan
Re: Lebron with 31/10/5...heat still lose
No secret that was amazing at times in these Finals. His teammates, bad coaching and unfavorable matchups all deserve most of the blame.
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Bad Username
Re: Lebron with 31/10/5...heat still lose
Originally Posted by Beastmode88
Stats reminds me of MJ before he got thru the bad boys.
Yup
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Knicks all da way
Re: Lebron with 31/10/5...heat still lose
Please don't mention his name in the same sentence as MJ.
MJ took a long time to finally start winning, but once he started winning he didn't lose. And let's not act like Scottie Pippen was always there in playoff games. I remember Scottie getting shut down by Anthony Mason so often.
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NBA Legend
Re: Lebron with 31/10/5...heat still lose
Even the refs tried to help him and he still couldnt win
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KLove=overrated
Re: Lebron with 31/10/5...heat still lose
Originally Posted by Angel Face
Help? LOL dude, he is the most helped superstar of all time. It happens when you turn your superstar team mates into spot up shooters. Lebron's game make his team mates worst. Dribble the ball for 20 seconds, with 4 seconds left on the shot clock pass to team mate.
His stats look good on paper but if you see him play, he has no impact.
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Re: Lebron with 31/10/5...heat still lose
Probably his best Finals series. I think if you put this Lebron on the '07 Cavs, they stand a good chance of winning.
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Re: Lebron with 31/10/5...heat still lose
Game 1- got scared and faked cramps
Game 2- great game
Game 3- played 1 quarter
Game 4- played 1 quarter
Game 5 - played 1 quarter and quit on his team w/ 7 minutes left
Overall, pathetic series by the supposed best player and the leader of his team. Horrible defense throughout the series too. Got outplayed by a 22-year old.
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It is what it is
Re: Lebron with 31/10/5...heat still lose
Originally Posted by mehyaM24
i keep hearing he played "average". those numbers are better than jordan's career playoff numbers. better than kobe's career average in the finals.
you give bron any semblance of help, and he wins another title. the 90's bulls? they still go 6/6 (jordan stans love bringing him up, but lebron had nowhere near the help or coaching jordan did)
2/5...only stat he can't stat pad.
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Lebron with 31/10/5...heat still lose
Nobody is/should "blame" Lebron for this series...he played well, but he didn't dominate and wasn't great.
That is the point.
We are comparing Lebron now officially to the best 5 to 10 players of all time.
And Lebron stans want him to be for sure ranked over some guys....and that just isn't happening with his career to date.
You put this Heat team in the West for the last 4 years and the Thunder in the East, and the Heat might only have won 1 title and made the finals once. That is how big of a difference and how much easier the Heat had it playing in the East.
11? Nope...lose to the Mavs in WCF
12? Yes...likely win it all
13? Perhaps, the Heat were injured and playing terrible in the East and Wade was clearly healthy by the finals. Having to play real teams makes it a lot harder once getting to the finals
14? Nope...lose to Thunder, Clippers, or Spurs...
That is the point Lebron stans need to understand. Your 4 finals appearances is inflated as **** playing in a joke conference....and winning 2 titles in 4 years given the circumstances was just expected. It's average. End of story.
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Re: Lebron with 31/10/5...heat still lose
Originally Posted by HoopsFanNumero1
Probably his best Finals series. I think if you put this Lebron on the '07 Cavs, they stand a good chance of winning.
i think his best finals was in 2012, but this is definitely his most efficient one.
the least help he's had since 07 for sure.
does anyone think this series effected lebron's legacy? maybe wade's, but honestly, lebron stays one of the GOATs.
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