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Old 06-28-2007, 03:45 AM   #16
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By the By, thanks for info Lakerfreak.. youve made my night... :

no problem.

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for some reason girls never appreciated the types of nights i tried for them.

oh well. I'll try again at 2:30.
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Old 06-28-2007, 04:01 AM   #17
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This is beautiful. This guy is better than calcalcalderon!

Yes, that's why he isn't World Champion, and Calderon is, cause Papaloukas is better. Oh my...

Not to mention that he is 5 or 6 years older...
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Old 06-28-2007, 05:02 AM   #18
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Yes, that's why he isn't World Champion, and Calderon is, cause Papaloukas is better. Oh my...

Not to mention that he is 5 or 6 years older...


And who are you?
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Old 06-28-2007, 05:21 AM   #19
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And who are you?

真真真真真??????????

who I am? mmm.. perhaps a user of the forum.
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Old 06-28-2007, 10:05 AM   #20
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The way I look at Theodoros Papaloukas, is he an upgrade over what is on the roster currently?

I say YES! He is a big PG that is known as a pass first PG that gets the ball to where it needs to be on time with good court vison and he is the best PG in Europe (I know it is Europe B-Ball but look at the Spurs, they have a nice group of Euro's and they perfrom at a high level).

He ( Papaloukas ) is not KG, but IF the Lakers could land either KG or JO and add him, it is a decent start to build a contender. A backcourt that has an average height of 6'7 would cause match-up problems for almost every team. Theodoros Papaloukas could also play the 2 or 3 when Farmar is in to give the Lakers 3 ball handlers and faciliators on the offensive end.

Here is the scouting report on Theodoros Papaloukas (courtesy of http://www.draftexpress.com/viewarticle.php?a=2047):

Looking for an unusual player? What about a 6-7 point guard? What about a Euroleague MVP that comes off the bench? What about a guy who almost always displays his best level in important and meaningful games? That’s Theodoros Papaloukas, arguably the reigning best player in Europe, the direct heir of guys such as Dejan Bodiroga and Sarunas Jasikevicius, a fierce and insatiable competitor, a winner, a perennial hero for his team. Papaloukas was coming back to Athens, his hometown, to try and win back-to-back Euroleague titles for CSKA Moscow. It just happened that he couldn’t get it done this time despite putting one of the best shows of his life in the final against Panathinaikos.

Right after the semifinal win over Tau Vitoria, CSKA coach Ettore Messina showed his concern about Papaloukas taking too much responsibility for this event in his homeland (he joked about Theo organizing travel, tickets, practice, the hotel…), but it was what actually happened in the final, as a huge amount of his team’s offensive load went through his hands, either with points directly scored by him, creating spaces for his teammates with his aggressive playing style or passing the ball to an open man.

Papaloukas is a difficult player to contest. He’s tall and quite strong for a guard, enjoying very good ball-handling skills to protect the ball despite his size, and displays decent quickness. Theo can drive and dribble in traffic, even with contact, which helps him overpower his match-ups. He perfectly uses his size to post up his defender, even beating guys as tall as him (like Siskauskas in the final). And then, it’s a matter of his great ability to finish near the basket (partially thanks to his size), magnificent court vision and an impressive mind to take decisions. The guy always knows when to push the ball and run (either because of a certain play situation or what the game demands), when to stop and play a more drawn out sequence, and when to resolve with a pick and roll play or an individual effort.

Actually we’re talking about a master of the pick and roll, a playmaker that perfectly feeds the teammate setting the pick and rolling towards the basket, often with high passes where he takes advantage of his size. If the defense doesn’t stay honest, he will either go all the way to the basket to score himself or shoot the ball off the dribble. Here we find his main weakness in terms of offensive game though: he’s not much of a shooter, although he will punish you if he’s left wide open. His passing game is not only about two-on-two situations, but he finds his teammates on the weak side extremely easily, he’s very dangerous distributing the ball from the low post (especially because he usually attracts defensive helps), and generally speaking, if there’s any defensive mistake, chances are he will make pay by sending the ball instantaneously to the appropriate place. It’s also interesting to note how he often passes while in the air, a high risk proposition, but he rarely turns the ball over, as his mind offers him quick solutions.

Theo helps in the rebounding department, usually igniting the fastbreak (also if he receives a quick outlet pass) to look for easy baskets. He’s an unspectacular, but solid defender; let’s say he fills the bill. Obviously he’s not the quickest guy around when it comes to moving laterally, which would hurt him in the NBA matching-up against point guards. Neither is he very athletic for a wing. But there aren’t many guys around with his combination of character and skills. In a world increasingly starving for true playmakers, he’s the answer. Will the NBA feel the same way? We’ll find out this summer.
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Old 06-28-2007, 10:05 AM   #21
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i still like double A
im tellin ppl he is a steal

He is a steal, but the only way we'll get him is if we trade both our 2nd round picks for a late 1st/early 2nd

this Pop guy looks good, but i'm weary about giving him a 30 mil contract
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Old 06-28-2007, 10:24 AM   #22
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(I know it is Europe B-Ball but look at the Spurs, they have a nice group of Euro's and they perfrom at a high level).

European Basketball is different, if you want a good shooter NBA is your league, if you want a great PG... usually euroleague is a better place to search.

And Spurs aren't "high level", they are the champions, with no American Stars. This only means good former players have as level as NBA players, and Teodoros is a good example of great base. You have more exciting players there to sign if you look for.
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Old 06-28-2007, 10:37 AM   #23
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(I know it is Europe B-Ball but look at the Spurs, they have a nice group of Euro's and they perfrom at a high level).

European Basketball is different, if you want a good shooter NBA is your league, if you want a great PG... usually euroleague is a better place to search.

And Spurs aren't "high level", they are the champions, with no American Stars. This only means good former players have as level as NBA players, and Teodoros is a good example of great base. You have more exciting players there to sign if you look for.




I didn't want to, nor did I intend to take anything away from the Spurs, I was talking about individual play, the transition from Euro ball to the NBA and the ability to gel with their team. Tony Parker and Manu Ginobili played out of this world in the playoffs (Parker in the Finals) and even Fabricio Oberto was a key contributor thoughout the season/post season. I also think Tim Duncan (American Virgin Islands) and Bruce Bowen (USA) had just a little role in their title run(s) as well.

My point was Theodoros Papaloukas could come in and start right away at the PG spot and because of his size he could play AT LEAST the 1,2,3, and 4 if need be. I also think by having Magic around he could give him some useful tips playing PG at his size in the NBA. Papaloukas' size would give the Lakers an advantage and his playmaking abilty is something the Lkaers are lacking at the PG spot.

Bottom line is Papaloukas seems to be upgrade over what is currently on the roster, and if he lives up to his billing, could be one heck of a player for the Lakers.
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Old 06-28-2007, 11:55 AM   #24
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If we get popaloukas...I will be so excited!!!

I like him so much I was always watching him in the FIBA league last year.

Dude isn't affected by anything.

I'm in favor of this one however I would first try to trade the 19th pick along with Kwame and/or Bynum for the Huge Chinese guy with the great shooting touch, he looks much better than Yao.
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Old 06-28-2007, 01:15 PM   #25
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This guy looks great, but one thing I noticed was that the footage didn't have any shots of him shooting. Does he have a jumpshot? and would he be committed to playing long term considering the fact that he's 30.
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Old 06-28-2007, 01:17 PM   #26
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for the guys who love theo.....are you admitting that mitch is going to make a good move.....
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Old 06-28-2007, 01:41 PM   #27
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for the guys who love theo.....are you admitting that mitch is going to make a good move.....
Ha Ha Ha, Apeman, you are too funny!!!!! Ok if Kupcake actually gets this done getting Theo then yes it will be a good move however, Mitch has a knack of blowing it, so let's not praise him until it's done ok.
Fire Mitch!!!! lol!!!:
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Old 06-28-2007, 02:25 PM   #28
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Guys a little bit of news here .. figuered we'd keep all draft news in one thread ..
Picked this up in another forum.

http://www.pacersdigest.com/apache2-...ad.php?t=32053

According to a friend in LA the Lakers and Rockets completed a small deal just now. Rockets send Luther Head and pick #26 to the Lakers for pick #19 and Brian Cook.

Yesterday a rumor surfaced the Pacers and Rockets had discussed Ike Diogu for pick 26 , could be the completed trade (if true) could move the Pacers up from 26 to 19 if the Rockets deal the pick for Diogu.

Diogu fits the Rockets needs for a scorer at pf , could be Bird sees his sg (Fernandez, Belinelli or Almonds ) available at 19 where he may not have been at 26.
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Old 06-28-2007, 03:47 PM   #29
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hey guys i dont have cable so i was wondering is there any way i can watch the draft live on my computer?
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