Our bench

[Rameek]

Originally Posted by franchize

Sorry to be a negative Norm but I still don't like our bench. Maybe it's because I see Shumpert as a starter. I've been clamoring for Novak and Jordan to get more playing time. I don't like Bibby,Jeffries, I'm losing faith in Walker, I'd liek to see if Balkman has anything to offer.

There should be at least a 10 to 11 man rotation during the season but as the playoffs approaches D'Antoni has to define roles and minutes.

I do believe Shump should be starting but I dont think Fields could handle coming off the bench and being depended upon to be a major player for the 2nd unit.

I also think Jordan needs to spell Chandler as well even if its just to foul. Balkman its harder because the Knicks have too many small forwards already.

[Sarcastic]

Originally Posted by Rameek

but I dont think Fields could handle coming off the bench and being depended upon to be a major player for the 2nd unit.

This is a retarded line of reasoning to keep someone in the starting lineup ahead of a more talented player.

[Clutch]

Shumpert is a better defender than Fields and it would be nice to have as much defense as we can get in the starting lineup.

On the other hand he's a better scorer than Fields and we need all the scoring we can get from our bench.
Shumpert showed some beautiful offensive moves in the last few games.

He has started to attack the rim instead of shooting contested jumpers.

[Scoooter]

I haven't seen anything to put Shumpert over Fields. He still seems too stupid for my liking. If one of them had a jumpshot (although Fields did last year, so something's going on there), it might be a different story.

[knickscity]

Personally I wouldn't mind seeing both Fields and Shump on the bench.

A Lin-JR Smith backcourt is looking pretty nice if that happens.

[franchize]

Originally Posted by knickscity

Personally I wouldn't mind seeing both Fields and Shump on the bench.

A Lin-JR Smith backcourt is looking pretty nice if that happens.

Church

[Rameek]

Originally Posted by Sarcastic

This is a retarded line of reasoning to keep someone in the starting lineup ahead of a more talented player.

Its not retarded their are some NBA players that come off the bench even though they may be more talented than the guy ahead of them....

Mayo, Crawford, Harden, Terry, Ginobli etc etc....

Its about putting the players in the best position to succeed.

Can anyone see Fields leading the 2nd unit?

[knickscity]

Originally Posted by Rameek

Its not retarded their are some NBA players that come off the bench even though they may be more talented than the guy ahead of them....

Mayo, Crawford, Harden, Terry, Ginobli etc etc....

Its about putting the players in the best position to succeed.

Can anyone see Fields leading the 2nd unit?

Mayo, Crawford, Terry as starters were terrible.

I really can't see Harden starting with Westbrook.

Ginobili without question, but solidifies that second unit.

And yes I can see Fields lead the second unit, as he seems to excel when the star players are not around.

All I would want from the second unit is to protect the lead, provide the starters adequate rest.

[Rameek]

Originally Posted by knickscity

Mayo, Crawford, Terry as starters were terrible.

I really can't see Harden starting with Westbrook.

Ginobili without question, but solidifies that second unit.

And yes I can see Fields lead the second unit, as he seems to excel when the star players are not around.

All I would want from the second unit is to protect the lead, provide the starters adequate rest.

Harden or Westbrook could start at PG or SG....

Fields excelled when star players arent around I disagree. He hasnt excelled until recently in any capacity since last year.

[knickscity]

Originally Posted by Rameek

Harden or Westbrook could start at PG or SG....

Fields excelled when star players arent around I disagree. He hasnt excelled until recently in any capacity since last year.

I said I can't imagine them starting together.

Ironically, Fields has played better with the stars not playing, which is the case right now.

[franchize]

Bibby
Harrelson
Douglas
Novak
Jordan
Jeffries
Walker

All players who can't create their own shot on offense. Of those players, only one (Novak) contributes anything offensively. This is a huge problem considering we're adding this to Chandler who also can't create for himself offensively. Furthermore, Baron and Landry's contributions are very limited. So when people say Smith, Shumpert and Anthony's shot selection is poor, I don't necessarily disagree but I ask what is the alternative. Well, we saw it last night. Guys are looking lost out there and turning the ball over. We dribble the shot clock down and then give it to Melo last minute for him to save the day. Of course he's going to take poor shots.

[knickscity]

The main problem with the bench is that it's two main components are in the starting lineup.

Baron is a 20 minute guy at most, but has to play more and is clearly hurting.

As much as I love Shumperts game, he is best off the bench as well.

We don't have the luxury of trotting out players who are natural to their spots.

As long as Amare and Lin are out, the team although winning games, one's that were not predictable, still are severely at a disadvantage.

The team has no quality shooting guard, power forward, or pg either available or healthy.

We're counting on heroics now just to win games.