Re: Sam Smith Article: "Bulls May Need Better Shooting Guard"
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Originally Posted by idizzle
All I can say about the SG situation is that the Bulls have two 1st round picks in the 2011 Draft and hopefully they won't be foolish and they will draft a SG. If it hadn't been for Lebitch James playing like he was going to sign with the Bulls they could have drafted a SG hadn't they not traded their draft pick and Kirk Hinrich to get extra cap space to try sign Lebitch.
Here are some guards that will probaby enter the draft depending on the lockout situation.
(6'4) LaceDarius Dunn from Baylor
(6'5) Glen Rice Jr from GA Tech
(6'4-6'5) Durell Summer from the University of Michigan
(6'4-6'5) Iman Shumpert from GA Tech
(6'6-6'7) Scotty Hopson from the University of Tennessee
(6'4-6'5) Malcolm Lee from UCLA
(6'4) Travis Leslie from the University of GA
(6'6) Alec Burks from the University of Colorado.
(6'6-6'7) Jordan Hamilton from Texas
(6'5-6'6) Reggie Bullock from UNC
(6'5) William Buford from Ohio State
(6'6) Dequan Jones from Miami
(6'5-6'6) Gilbert Brown from Pittsburgh
Also, the Bulls should try the D-League or undrafted players.
The Spurs and Warriors always find good players from the D-League or undrafted players who can help their rosters.
Jordan Hamilton, Reggie Bullock, and William Buford are all guys i'd welcome here with open arms.
Re: Sam Smith Article: "Bulls May Need Better Shooting Guard"
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Originally Posted by Crystallas
I never implied, that you said you knew better than thibs. You tried to twist my words then and made no sense, you can try again now with the same result.
And you can look as well for that thread about the SG vs PF chatter. The search on this site is bunked, and if you want to fault me for that, go for it. I tried to find the thread, and it's a mess.
So which is it? Is J-Rich good or bad, and what happened to you thinking he was a poor fit next to Rose?
YOu NEVER IMPLIED that I said I knew better than thibs?
This is what you said in the thread intitled "luol Deng is a whore" dated 10/30/10, 11:29 pm, ill comment on this, to help you find it, itll probably be higlighted in your screen to tell you i'ts new.
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Originally Posted by Crystallas
This is unlike you tam, you're allover the place. All this, over not liking that Deng attempted four 3s?
Let me ask you this, how much of the game did you watch? 3 of 5 of these 3s that Deng missed in 2 games, were not far off the mark.
Again, I'm not trying to defend Deng, as he needs the change of scenery, but his 3 point shooting is not the problem.
And Thibs is also been on a NBA coaching staff for 25 years, known for defense, sure, but what qualifies you to say you know better than him, as far as running attack and transition defense? I'm sure no matter how good you think you are, after 2 regular season games, you would do better, right?
what somebody hacked into your pc>?
As for me stating that I didn't like JRich, I honestly can't recall that, my principle is the SAME, PRIORITIZE signing the best big man FIRST, THEN, acquire the best SG for what's left with the salary cap. That was the heart of our heated discussion. NEVER said we'll be alright with a scrub SG.
Re: Sam Smith Article: "Bulls May Need Better Shooting Guard"
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Originally Posted by tamaraw08
YOu NEVER IMPLIED that I said I knew better than thibs?
This is what you said in the thread intitled "luol Deng is a whore" dated 10/30/10, 11:29 pm, ill comment on this, to help you find it, itll probably be higlighted in your screen to tell you i'ts new.
what somebody hacked into your pc>?
As for me stating that I didn't like JRich, I honestly can't recall that, my principle is the SAME, PRIORITIZE signing the best big man FIRST, THEN, acquire the best SG for what's left with the salary cap. That was the heart of our heated discussion. NEVER said we'll be alright with a scrub SG.
No, I never implied that you said you knew better than Thibs. You twisted my words and avoided the question, just like I said before. Then you went off talking about what other coaches would do. Why? What does that have to do with answering a question? Did you bother to read the entire sentence, or are you selective? I'll help you.
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And Thibs is also been on a NBA coaching staff for 25 years, known for defense, sure, but what qualifies you to say you know better than him, as far as running attack and transition defense?
Question Avoided, right? Hell, it's a simple yes or no question. I'll wait another 4 days for your next response that makes no sense, and is chalk full of smileys like
And I'm giving up on the JRich point. I tried again to find that thread. It's lost in the ISH mess. Pretty lame of you to compare a page 1 thread to something in the cracks of the site. Hell, if I were the type to twist words and avoid questions, then I might say any stupid shit too. Yes, I am implying that you are the type.
Re: Sam Smith Article: "Bulls May Need Better Shooting Guard"
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Originally Posted by Crystallas
No, I never implied that you said you knew better than Thibs. You twisted my words and avoided the question, just like I said before. Then you went off talking about what other coaches would do. Why? What does that have to do with answering a question? Did you bother to read the entire sentence, or are you selective? I'll help you.
Question Avoided, right? Hell, it's a simple yes or no question. I'll wait another 4 days for your next response that makes no sense, and is chalk full of smileys like
And I'm giving up on the JRich point. I tried again to find that thread. It's lost in the ISH mess. Pretty lame of you to compare a page 1 thread to something in the cracks of the site. Hell, if I were the type to twist words and avoid questions, then I might say any stupid shit too. Yes, I am implying that you are the type.
ok dude, im the type? ok, I reeeeeaaaaly don't know what happened to you man. I misundertood you, or you misunderstood me, bec this is not the classy Cryst that had an interesting debate with a few months back.
As for your question, what qualifies me TO SAY, i know better than Thibs?, Well, I have no qualification and I NEVER SAID IM BETTER THAN THIBS!, never coached a pro team ever. I think Thibs is more knowledgeable than atleast 15 current head coaches.
Going back to that J Rich point, again, I honestly can't recall that I said, I didn't like him, maybe I PREFERRED another SG. Could it be, SOMEBODY ELSE said it? I mean, there's like 20 other posters here. If I said it, then let me say, I want to change my position on him, sorry I "convinced" you to think less of him.
If I have offended you in way, I am apologizing.
Re: Sam Smith Article: "Bulls May Need Better Shooting Guard"
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Originally Posted by tamaraw08
ok dude, im the type? ok, I reeeeeaaaaly don't know what happened to you man. I misundertood you, or you misunderstood me, bec this is not the classy Cryst that had an interesting debate with a few months back.
As for your question, what qualifies me TO SAY, i know better than Thibs?, Well, I have no qualification and I NEVER SAID IM BETTER THAN THIBS!, never coached a pro team ever. I think Thibs is more knowledgeable than atleast 15 current head coaches.
Going back to that J Rich point, again, I honestly can't recall that I said, I didn't like him, maybe I PREFERRED another SG. Could it be, SOMEBODY ELSE said it? I mean, there's like 20 other posters here. If I said it, then let me say, I want to change my position on him, sorry I "convinced" you to think less of him.
If I have offended you in way, I am apologizing.
Okay, finally, so I can finally finish my point about Luol Deng. You have a guy like Thibs come in, and snap on Luol for shooting 2s mearly 1/2 step in front of the line. It's either spot up from 3, or drive. Thibs is addressing Luol's issues, and if we're stuck with him, then his issues need to be addressed. We don't just take him for what he is now, and say, okay, you do your thing, we'll do ours. That's why I was upset that you were ranting about 3 pointers, as if that was a main focus to Luol's suckiness.
My aggressive behavior has a lot to do with the stupid crap people are posting. One month into the season, a tiny amount of money under the cap, one healthy SG, one not-so healthy SG, one shooting specialist swingman and one backup PG who has been a PG for his entire pro career. Gentlemen, start the barn burning now! It's soo terribly bad.
And the big irony of this whole thing, was that you wanted Boozer above all free agents. But at the same time, I would expect you to jump in and say something more mature(yes, I'm still calling you names until I get this all off my chest) like, wait, we need to see how this team performs with a healthy Boozer and a healthy Brewer before we get our hearts set on trading for system players like JRich. I mean, really? You got Boozer, so of all people, and all of those who wanted us to focus on Boozer before the LeBronathon/FA gold fever kicked in, should not be jumping on Sam Smiths bandwagon.
Wishful thinking is fine and dandy, but things are far too sketchy right now in the entire league to put our fan vote into action.
Okay... I'm done </vent>
Can we still be friends tam? I do like talking ball with you(and a lot of people on the Bulls forum). I just hope you can feel me on this.
Re: Sam Smith Article: "Bulls May Need Better Shooting Guard"
shannon browns an option he has a players option next yr for round 2.5 mil, im sure the bulls can offer him about 8 mill and he'll jump ship, hes improved alot and him n rose in the back court would be dynamic
Re: Sam Smith Article: "Bulls May Need Better Shooting Guard"
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Originally Posted by Crystallas
Okay, finally, so I can finally finish my point about Luol Deng. You have a guy like Thibs come in, and snap on Luol for shooting 2s mearly 1/2 step in front of the line. It's either spot up from 3, or drive. Thibs is addressing Luol's issues, and if we're stuck with him, then his issues need to be addressed. We don't just take him for what he is now, and say, okay, you do your thing, we'll do ours. That's why I was upset that you were ranting about 3 pointers, as if that was a main focus to Luol's suckiness.
My aggressive behavior has a lot to do with the stupid crap people are posting. One month into the season, a tiny amount of money under the cap, one healthy SG, one not-so healthy SG, one shooting specialist swingman and one backup PG who has been a PG for his entire pro career. Gentlemen, start the barn burning now! It's soo terribly bad.
And the big irony of this whole thing, was that you wanted Boozer above all free agents. But at the same time, I would expect you to jump in and say something more mature(yes, I'm still calling you names until I get this all off my chest) like, wait, we need to see how this team performs with a healthy Boozer and a healthy Brewer before we get our hearts set on trading for system players like JRich. I mean, really? You got Boozer, so of all people, and all of those who wanted us to focus on Boozer before the LeBronathon/FA gold fever kicked in, should not be jumping on Sam Smiths bandwagon.
Wishful thinking is fine and dandy, but things are far too sketchy right now in the entire league to put our fan vote into action.
Okay... I'm done </vent>
Can we still be friends tam? I do like talking ball with you(and a lot of people on the Bulls forum). I just hope you can feel me on this.
OMG Cryst, you sure these are you main issues and not bec the Bulls didn't use most of their money on your boy Joe Johnson?
Lets agree to disagree about Deng's high volume of 3 pt shots, shall we?
Did you know coach George Karl has winning seasons in all the teams he coached? Is it just bec of the superstars in his team? I don't THINK so. One of Karl's main philosophy is to prioritize on high % shots. Phil Jackson mentioned this several days back, acoording to him Denver has this 30-30 objective, 30 inside FGs, 30 FTs. Ofcourse Denver would at times drift from that, heck even the Lakers would go for long stretches jacking up 3's and not letting Pau touch the ball resulting to them losing games.
NOw if you happened to watched Thibs actually SAY that he wants Deng to jack up those 3's, then so be it, amen. more power to Deng,
it's my OPINION, , if I don't agree with yours, I won't call you names.
Just bec I like the Boozer signing, doesn't mean I LOVE every player that were signed., how is that logical? So if they signed 4 scrubs, as long as they signed one star its ok? yooo hoooooo, shut up everything is fine, lets just settle down. WE will be champs.
YOu call us immature? Does that include ljsbb and other smart posters here who wanted a better SG?
Im immature? while you imply that Sam Smith as stupid, that you call out Reddick and his body part?
I disagree with a fair no. of opinions here but I don't let it get to my head. What, I regard myself better than most of the posters here, tell myself, oh, im so smarter than these bozos?
If I disagree with a poster who i respect, I try to give some facts to back up my point. If they stick to their view, then so be it.
Re: Sam Smith Article: "Bulls May Need Better Shooting Guard"
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Originally Posted by tamaraw08
OMG Cryst, you sure these are you main issues and not bec the Bulls didn't use most of their money on your boy Joe Johnson?
Lets agree to disagree about Deng's high volume of 3 pt shots, shall we?
Did you know coach George Karl has winning seasons in all the teams he coached? Is it just bec of the superstars in his team? I don't THINK so. One of Karl's main philosophy is to prioritize on high % shots. Phil Jackson mentioned this several days back, acoording to him Denver has this 30-30 objective, 30 inside FGs, 30 FTs. Ofcourse Denver would at times drift from that, heck even the Lakers would go for long stretches jacking up 3's and not letting Pau touch the ball resulting to them losing games.
NOw if you happened to watched Thibs actually SAY that he wants Deng to jack up those 3's, then so be it, amen. more power to Deng,
it's my OPINION, , if I don't agree with yours, I won't call you names.
Just bec I like the Boozer signing, doesn't mean I LOVE every player that were signed., how is that logical? So if they signed 4 scrubs, as long as they signed one star its ok? yooo hoooooo, shut up everything is fine, lets just settle down. WE will be champs.
YOu call us immature? Does that include ljsbb and other smart posters here who wanted a better SG?
Im immature? while you imply that Sam Smith as stupid, that you call out Reddick and his body part?
I disagree with a fair no. of opinions here but I don't let it get to my head. What, I regard myself better than most of the posters here, tell myself, oh, im so smarter than these bozos?
If I disagree with a poster who i respect, I try to give some facts to back up my point. If they stick to their view, then so be it.
Joe Johnson is past, history. That will not happen. I can care less about the Bulls not signing Joe Johnson anymore. But I have the common sense to know that we do NOT know what we are dealing with at SG, because the ROLE has not been on display yet. Brewer is STILL NOT HEALTHY enough to start. Boozer hasn't gotten revenge on his gym bag yet, and we haven't even reached the player-hold deadline(December 15th, for those who get their info from 2k Sports.)
George Karl? Tom Thibodeau = George Karl now? I don't know why linking other teams, other situations, other coaches other players, other points of their careers to Luol Deng makes for any logical sense. Is that what you define as "facts to back up your point"? Are you going to be one of those idiots who applies Hollingers past-tense measurements to future scenarios? Hey, guess what? George Karl also DEVELOPED a lot of players that came into the NBA without the skills they became known for.
If you don't get to see a team in action with the all-great big man that this team starved for, how the hell is it so easy to jump to conclusions about the SG situation that we have, that isn't even at full strength? Yes, that is immature. I expect a teenager to throw fuel into the fire, maybe a 20-something year old know-it-all might see a few games and grab the pitchforks and torches.
Redick is a basketball player. Reddick is not. How can someone know enough about a player, if they can't even spell his name right? It's not a hard name, not like Turkoglu, Mbah a Moute, Iguodala or Nowitski. It's Redick, plain and simple. I hate the grammar police, but if you ever wanted to express your knowledge about a player, it's easy to spot those words coming out of your ass(most likely passing along the hype-train).
*this paragraph was copy-paste free, and no animals were harmed in the making there-of*
Contrary to popular belief, swapping players who voluntarily signed here for players that look better on paper will NOT make the Bulls a better team. Not realistically, and not within the current cap.
Re: Sam Smith Article: "Bulls May Need Better Shooting Guard"
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Originally Posted by Crystallas
Joe Johnson is past, history. That will not happen. I can care less about the Bulls not signing Joe Johnson anymore. But I have the common sense to know that we do NOT know what we are dealing with at SG, because the ROLE has not been on display yet. Brewer is STILL NOT HEALTHY enough to start. Boozer hasn't gotten revenge on his gym bag yet, and we haven't even reached the player-hold deadline(December 15th, for those who get their info from 2k Sports.)
George Karl? Tom Thibodeau = George Karl now? I don't know why linking other teams, other situations, other coaches other players, other points of their careers to Luol Deng makes for any logical sense. Is that what you define as "facts to back up your point"? Are you going to be one of those idiots who applies Hollingers past-tense measurements to future scenarios? Hey, guess what? George Karl also DEVELOPED a lot of players that came into the NBA without the skills they became known for.
If you don't get to see a team in action with the all-great big man that this team starved for, how the hell is it so easy to jump to conclusions about the SG situation that we have, that isn't even at full strength? Yes, that is immature. I expect a teenager to throw fuel into the fire, maybe a 20-something year old know-it-all might see a few games and grab the pitchforks and torches.
Redick is a basketball player. Reddick is not. How can someone know enough about a player, if they can't even spell his name right? It's not a hard name, not like Turkoglu, Mbah a Moute, Iguodala or Nowitski. It's Redick, plain and simple. I hate the grammar police, but if you ever wanted to express your knowledge about a player, it's easy to spot those words coming out of your ass(most likely passing along the hype-train).
*this paragraph was copy-paste free, and no animals were harmed in the making there-of*
Contrary to popular belief, swapping players who voluntarily signed here for players that look better on paper will NOT make the Bulls a better team. Not realistically, and not within the current cap.
The point I made about Karl is that he loves high % shots, corelating my OPINION that Deng is better off taking an 18 footer rather missing an ave of 4 3pt FGs/game. There are players that I think are legit 3pt shooters and there are those who just miss them even if they are WIDE OPEN!
Again for the umpteenth time, its just my "opinion". If you disagree, then fine, its not newsflash that somebody disagreed with my view.
YOu made a valid point that Boozer is not even playing yet and that Brewer is not 100%, but again from the start, I never liked Brewer playing heavy minutes as THE "shooting" guard who can't shoot. I maybe wrong, then I could be right, just like when a few posters thought that Thibs would be starting Korver as a SG.
About me mis-spelling Redicks name, well my apologies to JJ and ahem to you too, no need to elaborate on this, again just my opinion, I hope this will not embitter(embiter? goood gosh, I have to go to dictionary.com so I won't mispel it and offend you) you again.
Last edited by tamaraw08 : 11-25-2010 at 12:34 AM.
Re: Sam Smith Article: "Bulls May Need Better Shooting Guard"
