Originally Posted by MaxFly
I found the study you cited. Here is a key part.
So doctors, lawyers, ect... were apparently omitted from that study.
I'm not amazed because I'm well aware of the job and career opportunities that are out there. I'm well read on the issue and I'm familiar with a fair number of endeavors aimed at getting young people into careers outside of the college/grad school route. Not too long ago I urged someone I know to take a certificate program in computer repair. My argument isn't that there aren't good opportunities available. It's that corprorations and industries, not government, are the ones primarily responsible for requiring college degrees for jobs, and thereby driving up the price of college tuition. I want to make sure that doesn't get lost in all of this. Libertarians and Republicans are so quick to blame government while Democrats are quick to give government a pass, and we fall into political debates so quickly that we miss the nuances inherent in policy.
Wow, GREAT job on your part actually looking into the study.
A lot of news reporters/writers omit a lot of key things and put their own spin on it.
But still the fact remains that only 27% of grads having a job related to their major, which imo is strong evidence for what I've been saying about college degrees.
Hmm, you make a good points, and I do agree that sometimes employers are missing out on potentially great employees by requiring a bachelors degree, but... that also means that employers who hire these great people will win in the long run and employers will change their hiring habits. In fact, I'm sure a lot of employers are already doing this. I used to hire people and the funny thing is, it only took me about 6 months of experience to realize that a college degree meant very little (in most fields). I hired AMAZING people over people who had bachelor's degrees and even PhDs. You know why? Because I believe the following attributes are WAY more important than a degree:
-Easy to work with. I don't care if you know calculus 4 or quantum mechanics.. if you are a complainer about little things, then I'm hiring someone else
-Positive energy. I like to keep things positive wherever I'm at. Hiring someone who is negative all the time is counterproductive. Yes, we can complain about the board and some of their decisions and all that... but there's ALWAYS something we CAN complain about.
-Try their best in everything they do. If someone gives it their best, I am never mad at them. I'm actually never mad at someone anyway because I'm a super chill manager. Even as a manager, I'm completely open and all ears if an employee wants to teach me something. If you are open to learning when I train you, then we'll be successful together
I can go on, but you get the picture. Bottom line is managers who end up hiring the best employees will succeed in the end.