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Old 07-17-2018, 03:17 PM   #31
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Default Re: Be honest, do you think Trump will win the 2nd term election?

He shouldn't. He's done nothing but divided the country. But that being said, I wouldn't count him out if someone like Hillary runs again.
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Old 07-17-2018, 04:16 PM   #32
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Probably not. Trump isn't all bad, even though in my opinion he is clearly wrong on a lot of things like the economy, foreign policy in the middle east, and privacy/surveillance issues. It's just that for some reason his methods/execution of his policy tend to be appalling and at times mind-numbingly cringe-worthy. Like, there's gotta be a better way to doing things but he chooses to do otherwise. His methods bring about a lot of self-inflicted harm when it doesn't have to. He essentially can't stop self-sabotaging himself. But then again, Democrats have shown they can royally screw up too, so I wouldn't be surprised.

I've mostly given up on American politics the way it is now. The only good possibility I see coming out of this is that Trump (with the help of the Democrats) make American politics crash so low that people start seriously considering a third party as viable. But even now that still seems like a moonshot and there are too many other bad possibilities that will likely happen instead.

It's a pendulum swing of partisanship. Every decade it swings the other way. It's why we have same party in office back to back since Reagan to GW Bush. We had 2 terms of Clinton, 2 terms of Bush, 2 terms Obama, then back to Trump. It's likely the next president will be a Democrat. It's just swinging back & forth, and that usually is a sign of stagnancy & polarity. I highly doubt Trump wins 2nd term. Especially not if Rosenstein and/or Mueller are shut down or return will condemning evidence of Russia involvement.
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Old 07-17-2018, 04:21 PM   #33
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I think the DNC already kind of learned their lesson with Bernie.

Plus his borderline extreme socialist views might scare away republicans who want Trump out.

Harris is untested and Warren has turned many away as well.

I'm not saying I would prefer Biden but I could see him winning as the "safe choice"

Biden will be 78 next election. I don't know if that's a good idea..

It has to be a strong personality though.
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Old 07-17-2018, 04:34 PM   #34
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he will win

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Old 07-17-2018, 04:43 PM   #35
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Default Re: Be honest, do you think Trump will win the 2nd term election?

It doesn’t matter if the lib turnout is high if it’s already in states that vote democrat which seems to be where 99% of all the Trump outrage you see on TV is coming from.

He’s got a 90% approval rating by republicans which means 100% will likely end up pulling the lever for him again.
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Old 07-17-2018, 06:01 PM   #36
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It doesnít matter if the lib turnout is high if itís already in states that vote democrat which seems to be where 99% of all the Trump outrage you see on TV is coming from.

Heís got a 90% approval rating by republicans which means 100% will likely end up pulling the lever for him again.

It's crazy how many people are just brazenly ignoring this. This is the biggest reason why the Democrats have to run someone who will actually listen to the needs of the manufacturing/Rust Belt states. It will be an enormously pivotal campaign issue in the general. States which traditionally lean blue but were turned off by the Obama-Clinton near unfettered trade mindset last election.

There's almost no question that Trump will again lose the popular vote (probably by even more than last time) based on turnout in the true blue areas. But it may not matter. You have to flip the states that are actually tossups and give the blue-leaning majorities there some passion to actually turn out for you.

Nationwide, there is virtually no argument to be made to run moderate campaigns right now if you're the left. None. It's more debatable when we talk about state and local elections, though I'd even argue against that.
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Old 07-17-2018, 06:06 PM   #37
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trumps actually done a great job so far


- bringing businesses back
- bringing unemployment down to record lows
- negotiating with NK and russia
- deporting illegals
- exposing the liberal media
- nominated for nobel peace prize
On policy heís good but, man can his personality wear on you.

Dude could take a lesson from Obama. Keep a low profile. You donít need to make the news EVERY day.
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Old 07-17-2018, 06:16 PM   #38
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Dems can't have another female run again

Likewise, I think a lot of people just voted for Trump because it was just unfathomable to them seeing a woman as president

Antifa, Fems, LGBT and BLM numbers alone might topple him

I think it'll be a landslide
Iíve literally never talked to a single person that thought that. I donít know how Dems got it into their heads that this is a thing, but it isnít.

On the other hand, Iíve heard countless people say they voted Hillary specifically because they wanted a woman president.
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Old 07-17-2018, 08:42 PM   #39
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yes, he is likely to win a 2nd term unless he does something very stupid.
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Old 07-17-2018, 08:48 PM   #40
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We'll all be dead by then..
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Old 07-17-2018, 09:27 PM   #41
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yes, in a land slide .The amount of closeted Hispanic haters in this country would astonish you.Whites do not want to become a minority!
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Old 07-18-2018, 12:13 AM   #42
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I donít think so.

It's hard to say but gut feeling is he won't. If he can do more shit maybe, but it doesn't seem like it. Is he gonna get impeached, thrown in jail... Also probably not, but I do think all this stuff is starting to affect people. It's a long time til then and most people are anti politics atm. The most zealous people do seem to be highly left wing.

Are they bigger than trumps base tho? You also have to keep in mind he's gotta face someone. Looking at the field, I'd still rather have Trump. Def over Hillary. Bernie seems like a cool dude but I think he'd be an awful pres. I think actuall socialism in the US is nuts. But they got dudes tricked into thinking it'll help everyone. It's like those starving dog commercials... Don't you wanna help. It's like of course but is it really gonna? Can't we try to strengthen our country and hope people fill the holes opposed to going full socialism and destroying our economy even more?

Trump is a troll. Blows my mind people still get riled up. Two trolls, Trump and putin, get together and give a smirking press conference and everyone goes ape shit like treason!!!

I predict another low turnout election. The question is who he goes against and what base is stronger. Trump is a master shit slinger. He'd eat just about anyone alive that's on the roster for candidates, maybe if they run an independent to split his votes. But people also hate Trump so who knows.

You can't be strong and a victim as president. That's why Hillary failed, trying to be a victim then talk tough, on top of her corruption. Obama was black but when you heard him speak in 08 it was cool and collected. Alpha. Someone has to come at Trump like that, but who can? I still think he loses tho, just cuz.

Trump can emasculate anyone. Kinda crazy

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Old 07-18-2018, 03:05 AM   #43
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The Dems wont win shit unless they can offer something more than "muh russia" and "at least were not trump".

the average american doesnt really give a shit about whether russia hacked john podesta or spent $3000 on facebook ads. people care about things like healthcare, jobs, education, cost of living... you know, shit that actually effects them.

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Old 07-18-2018, 03:20 AM   #44
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Old 07-18-2018, 04:07 AM   #45
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The Dems wont win shit unless they can offer something more than "muh russia" and "at least were not trump".

the average american doesnt really give a shit about whether russia hacked john podesta or spent $3000 on facebook ads. people care about things like healthcare, jobs, education, cost of living... you know, shit that actually effects them.

This.

That Russia thread is just embarrassing to read.
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