Kobe does it again ! 1-10

[Legends66NBA7]

Please don't bring up other years, when KObe was in his prime and he was 2nd or first option, that is completely irrelevant to his situation now...

Kobe wasn't in his prime last season and the season before that and still maintained .500+ record in this exact scenario.

[TheMarkMadsen]

reading through the post its obvious that 2 maybe 3 people watched the game tonight.

Kobe drops 40+ on 57% and THATS THE REASON the lakers lost.. ok :rolleye

[Mr. Jabbar]

reading through the post its obvious that 2 maybe 3 people watched the game tonight.

Kobe drops 40+ on 57% and THATS THE REASON the lakers lost.. ok :rolleye

According to kobe haters kobe has been holding back Chris Duhon and Darius Morris, bad mamba bad!

[chazzy]

Chicken or the egg. Iversons teams had no problem playing the best defense in the league while he took 25 shots on much lower efficiency. It's a dumb argument now that you simpletons can't whine about his FG% anymore.

[nashwade]

kobe still can ball, but he needs to get team mates involved

to me the main problem of this squad (even if Nash & Gasol returns) is the bench. The starters are old and they need good players to hold the fort while Nash, Kobe and Gasol rest. The bench is downright pathetic. I will be very shocked if they make it to the finals

[Micku]

Chicken or the egg. Iversons teams had no problem playing the best defense in the league while he took 25 shots on much lower efficiency. It's a dumb argument now that you simpletons can't whine about his FG% anymore.

This is true.

But Iverson never had somebody like Howard with the offensive talent. And Larry Brown coaching, and they had more defensive guys on that 76ers team.

Kobe scoring shots and scoring isn't the problem because a majority of them are good shots. It's the turnovers and defense. Kobe had 5 turnovers tonight. Howard had 4 turnovers. Overall they had 18 turnovers. That's horrible. And either the coach or Kobe or somebody needs to get Howard more involved. Howard may not be 100%, but he needs more shots than just 9.


I'm curious once Nash gets back, how will Kobe adjust his game because Nash needs the ball to be effective. Even though Kobe is good without the ball, he still do his little iso dribble move, or his triple threat. Throughout his career he always had the ball to create his own shot or other ppl. With the triangle, he could get away from not having the ball, but sometimes he breaks that offense and do his own thing. While he isn't a LeBron, he still controls the ball a lot.

With Nash though, Kobe can't do that as often in order for Nash to be effective. This could be a problem or it could be a great thing.

[SCdac]

I don't see how the Lakers could feel comfortable with Kobe going off in scoring in losses while Dwight – for whatever reason – is averaging 11 shots in the last 5 games. This is supposed to be their crown jewel, the guy they want to keep around. I'm not huge Dwight fan, but without Nash and Gasol you'd think he'd be having some big games. Does D'Antoni not like him because he's got no jump shot? Are Kobe and Howard trying to feed off each other?

[KG215]

Yeah, it's really getting out of hand with the Kobe hate and blaming his scoring on their record. Out of the 10ish Lakers games I've watched this year (Kobe probably had 30+ in 7 or 8 of those) there was only one time I thought his '"chucking" might've been a big detriment to the team and hurt their chances to win; and that was mostly based on two or three jumpers he took in the fourth quarter with two or three defenders draped all over him, and he badly missed. But, that's it: one game with one really head-scratching stretch in the fourth quarter. Other than that, his scoring/offense hasn't been the problem.

It's clearly the Lakers defense. It's not even a question to be honest. if the Kobe haters want to find something they can blame and pin on him, then look at the defensive end. The whole team has been awful, not just Kobe, but Kobe has been pretty damn bad himself. But like I said, it's not Kobe's offense/shooting that's the problem.

I haven't seen the entirety of one of their games in a week or so, but the only thing I would maybe suggest is that he could make more of an effort to get Dwight involved, but that's as much on the coach as it is Kobe in my opinion.

[Chrono90]

Ppl have to understand that Lakers problem is mainly defense.

[poido123]

What people are effectively saying, is that it's ok for Kobe to be shooting more than 20 shots, as long as he is efficient?

All the Kobe fans are missing the point here, it's up to Kobe the leader to get everyone involved on offense and defense, and if they are not, the blame falls squarely on him. For every 1 or 2 efficient Kobe games there are 4 or 5 inefficient ones, and just because he shot well and scored 42 tonight, does that excuse that he didn't get his teammates more involved and more focused on defense? No. Kobe is not providing a good example leading the offense, and he is not providing a good example on defense, and it shows from his teammates who are clearly not showing the energy or desire to defend.

He really isn't actively looking to get others involved early in the game, and that sets a tone for the rest of the game. If you guys can't understand or see that, I really believe that you are blinded by your favourite player, and not the improvement of the team.

[poido123]

Kobe wasn't in his prime last season and the season before that and still maintained .500+ record in this exact scenario.

Last season he had a leash on him, with PJ running the show. He had criticism last year too, for shooting too much and playing hero ball. This year he has more offensive weapons and one who should be 1st scoring option and that is Howard. Hell even artest is getting more shots than Howard Is it no coincidence that both Bynum and Howard have had trouble getting enough shots in a Kobe led team?

[konex]

Last season he had a leash on him, with PJ running the show. He had criticism last year too, for shooting too much and playing hero ball. This year he has more offensive weapons and one who should be 1st scoring option and that is Howard. Hell even artest is getting more shots than Howard Is it no coincidence that both Bynum and Howard have had trouble getting enough shots in a Kobe led team?

Ignorant, blind hate is funny

[BlazersDozen]

You guys know that offense isn't the only part of a basketball game right? It Irving & Miles went off on Kobe then that kind of negates the points he dropped and how many assists did he have? Obviously not enough to matter.

[chazzy]

Last season he had a leash on him,

No he didn't, he shot even more and on much lower efficiency.

with PJ running the show.

Uh, Mike Brown?

He had criticism last year too, for shooting too much and playing hero ball.

And it was much more warranted last year yet they had no problems winning games.

This year he has more offensive weapons

How? Last year they had a healthy Gasol and Bynum along with Barnes off the bench and Sessions midway. Right now it's just Dwight and effectively a bunch of streaky role players

and one who should be 1st scoring option and that is Howard.

Based on what? He's not 100% and isn't scoring as effectively as Kobe. And when he gets fouled late in games, his FT% is at an all time low so he becomes a liability at times.

Hell even artest is getting more shots than Howard

Not true

Is it no coincidence that both Bynum and Howard have had trouble getting enough shots in a Kobe led team?

Howard is only taking a shot or two less while moving to a 2nd option role. Bynum took as many shots as Howard did last year as a 2nd option. He actually struggled to score as effectively in games Kobe sat out in last year IIRC, so this point makes 0 sense.

[KingMichael23]

How we go again. Kobe ballin is his fault that they lost?