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Old 02-21-2011, 11:18 AM   #1
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Default Too many protesters get shot, freedoms crushed in Arab countries

What do you get when you decide to organize a peaceful protest stating your desire for free elections and democracy in the Middle East.

You get shot in the street by the army

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...co ntrinter=1

*waits for Americans to be called cowards for not stepping and promoting diplomacy*

*waits for Americans to be called bullies after stepping in and promoting diplomacy*
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Old 02-21-2011, 11:22 AM   #2
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Default Re: Further proof all Arab countries need to be wiped off the map...

Those dictators need to go. Don't blame the whole countries & people because of looney presidents & kings.
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Old 02-21-2011, 12:38 PM   #3
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Default Re: Further proof all Arab countries need to be wiped off the map...

People in North Africa and the Middle East fight for the right to vote and most of us over here don't even vote. Think about that.

We don't deserve any of this.
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Old 02-21-2011, 01:18 PM   #4
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Default Re: Further proof all Arab countries need to be wiped off the map...

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People in North Africa and the Middle East fight for the right to vote and most of us over here don't even vote. Think about that.

We don't deserve any of this.

Martin Luther King ring a bell?

Did women and African Americans fight for the right to vote (half century ago) and end up getting that right because of a system called a democracy?
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Old 02-21-2011, 01:18 PM   #5
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Default Re: Further proof all Arab countries need to be wiped off the map...

i love political OTC threads.
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Old 02-21-2011, 01:23 PM   #6
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Default Re: Further proof all Arab countries need to be wiped off the map...

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Martin Luther King ring a bell?

Did women and African Americans fight for the right to vote (half century ago) and end up getting that right because of a system called a democracy?

What does that tell you? You just contradicted your own thread. Thanks for playing, now gtfo...
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Old 02-21-2011, 01:39 PM   #7
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What does that tell you? You just contradicted your own thread. Thanks for playing, now gtfo...

US Army were using 50 calibers against women having peaceful protests in American streets in the 1950's? 1850's? hmmm interesting

B+ for effort
D- for execution

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Old 02-21-2011, 02:25 PM   #8
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Default Re: Further proof all Arab countries need to be wiped off the map...

so you're criticizing the regimes on those countries, not the countries themselves.
There have been plenty of violent regimes in western countries as well. Oh, and there was a pretty violent civil war in the US as well, no?
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Old 02-21-2011, 02:51 PM   #9
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so you're criticizing the regimes on those countries, not the countries themselves.
There have been plenty of violent regimes in western countries as well. Oh, and there was a pretty violent civil war in the US as well, no?

Civil War fought in the 19th century over humanity rights

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Non remorseful murders against unarmed civilians in the 21st century over political religion



So not only comparing a 200 years difference in human society development but also the parallel similarity of the killings and the motive of violence itself. Nice!
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Old 02-21-2011, 04:27 PM   #10
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Default Re: Further proof all Arab countries need to be wiped off the map...

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People in North Africa and the Middle East fight for the right to vote and most of us over here don't even vote. Think about that.

We don't deserve any of this.


voting doesn't even matter tbh..

Politicians will continue to screw out the masses and look after personal benefits..
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Old 02-21-2011, 04:38 PM   #11
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This is the true value of the 2nd amendment. It's always possible for a government to overstep their bounds, so if and when the peoples resist, they should have the power to do so.
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Old 02-21-2011, 04:47 PM   #12
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Default Re: Further proof all Arab countries need to be wiped off the map...

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US Army were using 50 calibers against women having peaceful protests in American streets in the 1950's? 1850's? hmmm interesting

B+ for effort
D- for execution
well, Im sure you must be familiar with kent state.


besides, we can talk all the democrafreedom we want, the fact remains that we have propped up most off the autocratic regimes in that region (saudia arabia, egypt) while helping overthrow democratically elected govts (Iran in the 50s). Democracy is not at all the goal of our middle eastern policy. its economic and infrastructural stability. tangential I know, but I thought it should be included in the discussion.
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Old 02-21-2011, 04:49 PM   #13
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Default Re: Further proof all Arab countries need to be wiped off the map...

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People in North Africa and the Middle East fight for the right to vote and most of us over here don't even vote. Think about that.

We don't deserve any of this.

I thought I would look it up since I doubted you saying "most don't even vote."

http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0781453.html

Presidential years get a least 50% of the voting population to turnout. Turnout isn't anything to brag about for the non-Presidential elections tho.
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Old 02-21-2011, 04:50 PM   #14
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How did we get this far in without finding out what is the correct number of protesters to shoot?
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Old 02-21-2011, 05:02 PM   #15
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How did we get this far in without finding out what is the correct number of protesters to shoot?
Can't, because the military was hauling off the dead bodies. All they know is how many made it to the hospitals.
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