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Old 07-02-2007, 04:12 PM   #196
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he is an outside shooter, he doesn't play in the post...why can't people understand that about dirk?
I can understand that. I don't, however, understand why he's so highly thought of. Big men shooters aren't as successful as big men post players.
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what he is saying is "we need to win this one guys".
No, he's saying "If we lose this, our season is over." "But Dirk, isn't there still a chance after this game?" "Yeah, but we have no chance of coming back."

That's pretty much what he was saying and you know it. He was saying if they lose, they have no chance of coming back. I thought leaders never give up?
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he is just as good of a leader as either Lebron or Kobe...probably better.
No way in hell is he a better leader than Lebron James.
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there are only 2 legit knocks against Dirk here...

A. he choked against GS, and maybe Miami

B. he isn't an all star defensive player

and that is it.

- He choked against Golden State
- He will not be successful shooting from the arc all day
- His defense isn't good
- He isn't as great of a leader as an all-star MVP should be
- He disappears at big games
- He settles for jumpshots over midgets
- Dwyane Wade is better than him

There's tons of legitimate reasons. Those are just some of'em.
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Old 07-02-2007, 04:14 PM   #197
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I can understand that. I don't, however, understand why he's so highly thought of. Big men shooters aren't as successful as big men post players.
Dirk is the first of his kind...
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Old 07-02-2007, 04:15 PM   #198
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Old 07-02-2007, 04:16 PM   #199
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Dirk is the first of his kind...
What the hell? Did you just say Dirk is the first big man to be a shooter?
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Old 07-02-2007, 04:17 PM   #200
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Dirk is not a top 5 player

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he is an outside shooter, he doesn't play in the post...why can't people understand that about dirk?

Oh people do understand it nd its one of the reasons Dirk isnt a top 5 player.

BBall fans have alot of trouble watching a 7 foot dude act like he is allergic to the painted area...

7 footers shooting 3's and perimeter just doesnt go over well with people who know bball..

even the best perimeter shooters shoot no better than 50% and for 3 pt shooters, 45% is very high... where as post players Fg% are in the 50s and
60s...

Dirk needs to toughen up and get a real post game.... getting locked down by guards and avoid the post is not good for guy like Dirk
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nice post...

care to name another 7 foot outside shooter for me that is on the same level as Dirk?
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What the hell? Did you just say Dirk is the first big man to be a shooter?
outside shooter yes...

you know another 7 footer that hits threes like Dirk does?
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Old 07-02-2007, 04:21 PM   #203
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BBall fans have alot of trouble watching a 7 foot dude act like he is allergic to the painted area...
give me a break...he is not "allergic to the painted area".

here is what Dirk is capable of in the paint:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wH823SZGSXk

he just shines on the outside
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Old 07-02-2007, 04:22 PM   #204
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care to name another 7 foot outside shooter for me that is on the same level as Dirk?

7 footers dont need to shoot 3's.... they need to play close to the basket where their height gives them an edge... 7 footers dont need worry too much about outside shooting..they can add it to their game after they master their post game.... but not at the expense of their post game
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Old 07-02-2007, 04:23 PM   #205
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nice post...

care to name another 7 foot outside shooter for me that is on the same level as Dirk?

Raef LaFrentz was as good stroking it back in the day.

Care to name a 7 foot player that JUST shoots?
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Old 07-02-2007, 04:25 PM   #206
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outside shooter yes...

you know another 7 footer that hits threes like Dirk does?
I know other big men that do. I find it insane that you just said Dirk was the first big man shooter ever. Austin Croshere, Pat Garrity, Antwan Jamison, Keith Van Horn, just to name a few. Hell, Arvydas Sabonis had some three-point range. Saying Dirk was the first big man shooter is like saying Nate Robinson is the first little man dunker. Spud Webb anybody?

Dirk is the best big man shooter ever, not the first.
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Raef LaFrentz was as good stroking it back in the day.

Care to name a 7 foot player that JUST shoots?
all you got is Raef?

come on...like I said, Dirk is the first of his kind
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all you got is Raef?

come on...like I said, Dirk is the first of his kind
Wrong again. Read my post.
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Old 07-02-2007, 04:30 PM   #209
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I know other big men that do. I find it insane that you just said Dirk was the first big man shooter ever. Austin Croshere, Pat Garrity, Antwan Jamison, Keith Van Horn, just to name a few. Hell, Arvydas Sabonis had some three-point range. Saying Dirk was the first big man shooter is like saying Nate Robinson is the first little man dunker. Spud Webb anybody?

Dirk is the best big man shooter ever, not the first.

I dont know that Dirk is the best shooting big man ever...

*Sammy Perkins was a great shooter
*Rik Smits was a great shooter(not a 3 pt shooter but he had nice range)
*Detlef Shrempf was a great shooter
*Bill Laimbeer was a great shooter

Maybe Dirk is the best 7 foot shooter, but I dont know if he was the best "big man" (I didnt compare)
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I know other big men that do. I find it insane that you just said Dirk was the first big man shooter ever. Austin Croshere, Pat Garrity, Antwan Jamison, Keith Van Horn, just to name a few. Hell, Arvydas Sabonis had some three-point range. Saying Dirk was the first big man shooter is like saying Nate Robinson is the first little man dunker. Spud Webb anybody?

Dirk is the best big man shooter ever, not the first.
he is the first 7 footer to play at his level...all you named is a bunch of chumps
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