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Scott Hastings Fan
Re: NBA Playoff MVP
Originally Posted by OldSchoolBBall
Is not having the best record in the league "failing" as well?
No, there is a clear difference. Failing to qualify for the playoffs is failing. You don't fail until your season is over.
The purpose of the playoffs is to win the title, come short of that and no matter how valuable you were, it wasn't valuable enough.
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2nd Greatest Player
Re: NBA Playoff MVP
Kevin Garnett over Paul Pierce in 2008.
Kobe in 2009 and 2010
Dirk in 2011
Lebron in 2012 and 2013.
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2nd Greatest Player
Re: NBA Playoff MVP
Originally Posted by Myth
Not significantly different from the Finals MVP. I wish that a Playoff MVP existed instead of a Finals MVP, just as long as they only give it to a player on the team that wins the whole thing. My example comes from the 2007 playoffs where Parker won Finals MVP, but I felt that Duncan did overall more for the team in the playoffs. Its strange that there is not an award that considers the first 3 round of the playoffs.
Me too. Parker abused Daniel Gibson and the Cavaliers back court in the NBA Finals.
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15x all nba legend
Re: NBA Playoff MVP
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sahelanthropus
Re: NBA Playoff MVP
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Reign of Error
Re: NBA Playoff MVP
I wonder if the playoff NBA always has to be a member of the championship team... for example wouldn't Garnett have a case in 2004? He averaged 24, 14, 5, 1.5 steals and 2.5 blocks over 18 games for the Wolves, compared to Ben Wallace who averaged the same defensive stats but who scored 10 points per game, didn't win FMVP, and generally was a great cog in a magnificent machine more than he was the engine. Garnett should also replace Pierce in 2008.
And I always thought Dirk had a case in 2006 as the playoffs MVP over Wade. He was a real MVP candidate that year, and over the whole playoffs he averaged 27, 12 and 3 with legendary performances in two of the rounds, whereas Wade averaged 28 6 and 6 but in the East, with star help from Shaq in three of the rounds, and had his great performances concentrated in the Finals. Either choice makes sense though.
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2nd Greatest Player
Re: NBA Playoff MVP
Originally Posted by TheMarkMadsen
Kobe 01
Nope
Shaq's playoffs numbers totally dominated Bean's statsline.
30.4 ppg on 55.5 FG%, 15.4 rpg, 3.2 apg, 0.4 spg, 2.4 spg
29.4 ppg on 46.9 FG%, 7.3 rpg, 6.1 apg, 1.6 spg, 0.8 bpg
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Re: NBA Playoff MVP
Originally Posted by TheMarkMadsen
Kobe 01
You can make a case.
His road play was the best of its kind this side of MJ.
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Re: NBA Playoff MVP
Originally Posted by Lebron23
Nope
Shaq's playoffs numbers totally dominated Bean's statsline.
30.4 ppg on 55.5 FG%, 15.4 rpg, 3.2 apg, 0.4 spg, 2.4 spg
29.4 ppg on 46.9 FG%, 7.3 rpg, 6.1 apg, 1.6 spg, 0.8 bpg
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2nd Greatest Player
Re: NBA Playoff MVP
Originally Posted by BoutPractice
I wonder if the playoff NBA always has to be a member of the championship team... for example wouldn't Garnett have a case in 2004? He averaged 24, 14, 5, 1.5 steals and 2.5 blocks over 18 games for the Wolves, compared to Ben Wallace who averaged the same defensive stats but who scored 10 points per game, didn't win FMVP, and generally was a great cog in a magnificent machine more than he was the engine. Garnett should also replace Pierce in 2008.
And I always thought Dirk had a case in 2006 as the playoffs MVP over Wade. He was a real MVP candidate that year, and over the whole playoffs he averaged 27, 12 and 3 with legendary performances in two of the rounds, whereas Wade averaged 28 6 and 6 but in the East, with star help from Shaq in three of the rounds, and had his great performances concentrated in the Finals. Either choice makes sense though.
same with Lebron in 2009. He was the best playoffs performer in 2009.
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Re: NBA Playoff MVP
I think this can be a tricky award.
Shaq destroyed the Nets frontcourt, but Kobe got them past Alamodome.
Better to do a series MVP count.
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Re: NBA Playoff MVP
Originally Posted by Lebron23
same with Lebron in 2009. He was the best playoffs performer in 2009.
Originally Posted by Lebron23
Kevin Garnett over Paul Pierce in 2008.
Kobe in 2009 and 2010
Dirk in 2011
Lebron in 2012 and 2013.
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The Beast In Me
Re: NBA Playoff MVP
Originally Posted by Magic 32
A picture that represents points only (and I think that was all before the actual Finals) should determine the best player?
Why not just look at their overall numbers and who they were going up against? Oh, wait, because it would show Shaq clearly wins.
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Re: NBA Playoff MVP
Originally Posted by T_L_P
A picture that represents points only (and I think that was all before the actual Finals) should determine the best player?
Why not just look at their overall numbers and who they were going up against? Oh, wait, because it would show Shaq clearly wins.
I don't care if Shaq had 100 rpg.
36 ppg on the road is 36 ppg on the road.
Last edited by Magic 32; 02-12-2014 at 07:45 PM.
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The Beast In Me
Re: NBA Playoff MVP
Originally Posted by Magic 32
I don't care if Shaq had 100 rpg.
36 ppg on the road is 36 ppg on the road.
Kobe's case for 01 Playoff MVP: more points on the road and no doubt better 4th quarter scoring.
Shaq's case: better stats, harder defensive matchups, more focus from the opposing defense.
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