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Old 07-10-2019, 09:46 PM   #1
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Default RJ Barret is more likely to be a bust than a star

That's all I'm going to say based on his summer league highlights.

This guy has D-Lo like symptoms, looks slow as molasses out there, looks like there's glue on his shoes.

Has a very subpar handle. Will not be able to handle the ball at all in the real NBA. Combined with his slowness, that will make it difficult to score even on fastbreaks.

Jumpshot has a slow release and unorthodox style.

Not gonna lie, I think there's a significant risk this guy could be a serious bust. Ben McLemore level bust.

I really strugle to see his position in the game. Maybe he could be a good defender if he applied himself. Looks like he has decent passing.

A poor man's Evan Turner is probably the best he can hope for.
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Old 07-10-2019, 09:56 PM   #2
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He does look slow af out there.

It's particularly strange to me, b/c watching his HS highlights, he appeared to be significantly more explosive than he looked at Duke and then now in summer league.

If he continues like this, he's gonna struggle mightily getting past his initial defender at the NBA level.
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Old 07-10-2019, 09:59 PM   #3
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He does look slow af out there.

It's particularly strange to me, b/c watching his HS highlights, he appeared to be significantly more explosive than he looked at Duke and then now in summer league.

If he continues like this, he's gonna struggle mightily getting past his initial defender at the NBA level.

He only handles the ball because he is a high draft pick. You'd never give someone like him the ball otherwise. I don't I've seen a worse ball handler in a long time.
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Old 07-10-2019, 10:05 PM   #4
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That's all I'm going to say based on his summer league highlights.

This guy has D-Lo like symptoms, looks slow as molasses out there, looks like there's glue on his shoes.

Has a very subpar handle. Will not be able to handle the ball at all in the real NBA. Combined with his slowness, that will make it difficult to score even on fastbreaks.

Jumpshot has a slow release and unorthodox style.

Not gonna lie, I think there's a significant risk this guy could be a serious bust. Ben McLemore level bust.

I really strugle to see his position in the game. Maybe he could be a good defender if he applied himself. Looks like he has decent passing.

A poor man's Evan Turner is probably the best he can hope for.

I'm still surprised Evan Turner didn't amount to more than he has. He was a killer in college. This has nothing to do with your main point, but my excuse is this is ISH--who cares
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Old 07-10-2019, 10:08 PM   #5
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He does look slow af out there.

It's particularly strange to me, b/c watching his HS highlights, he appeared to be significantly more explosive than he looked at Duke and then now in summer league.

If he continues like this, he's gonna struggle mightily getting past his initial defender at the NBA level.

The athletes get exponentially better at every level.

I could destroy most high school kids.
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Old 07-10-2019, 10:09 PM   #6
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Default Re: RJ Barret is more likely to be a bust than a star

He may have too much f uck it in him to bust completely.

He'll take any shot at anytime.

He desperately wants to be a star.
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Old 07-10-2019, 10:13 PM   #7
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I'm still surprised Evan Turner didn't amount to more than he has. He was a killer in college. This has nothing to do with your main point, but my excuse is this is ISH--who cares

Evan Turner, didn't watch him in college. In NBA, looked slow, no handle, questionable shot.

Same as RJ, didn't watch him in college, just seeing what I see.

They are both strong and have vision, but slow and questionable shot. Will be able to be "situation" players. I see RJ as being the player you put in, when the opposing team has two small guards. He can bully his way into the paint. Shut down the smaller guard as well perhaps. So that's his limit. A 6th or 7th man off the bench, defense and post guard scoring.
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Old 07-10-2019, 10:13 PM   #8
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I haven't seen this guy play really. I watched one Duke game to see Zion and didn't really pay attention. Is there a close NBA comparison for him (best case/worst case)?
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Old 07-10-2019, 10:16 PM   #9
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I haven't seen this guy play really. I watched one Duke game to see Zion and didn't really pay attention. Is there a close NBA comparison for him (best case/worst case)?

I don't know.

There's no player in the NBA who would ever be allowed to handle the ball like RJ did in summer league, when he is that awful at it. Sort of reminds me if Dan Majerle would dribble the ball up the court.

Danny Green maybe?

But worse.

And we don't even know if he can shoot or defend.
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Old 07-10-2019, 10:17 PM   #10
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Evan Turner, didn't watch him in college. In NBA, looked slow, no handle, questionable shot.

Same as RJ, didn't watch him in college, just seeing what I see.

They are both strong and have vision, but slow and questionable shot. Will be able to be "situation" players. I see RJ as being the player you put in, when the opposing team has two small guards. He can bully his way into the paint. Shut down the smaller guard as well perhaps. So that's his limit. A 6th or 7th man off the bench, defense and post guard scoring.

Yeah, I guess I didn't account for ET's relative lack of speed and athleticism at the time. But he was still a legitimate lead ball handler in college with a killer mid-range pull up game and a good feel for the game. Obviously, hardly anybody cares about that mid-range junk anymore so that really explains it. He never could shoot from distance. But I thought he'd be a quality starter/glue guy.
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Old 07-10-2019, 10:20 PM   #11
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I don't know.

There's no player in the NBA who would ever be allowed to handle the ball like RJ did in summer league, when he is that awful at it. Sort of reminds me if Dan Majerle would dribble the ball up the court.

Danny Green maybe?

But worse.

And we don't even know if he can shoot or defend.

The thing I hate most for the Knicks' sake is Fizdale has shown zero capacity to be a good coach in any aspect, especially development. Knicks fans seem to love him for no reason.
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Old 07-10-2019, 10:34 PM   #12
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Well first time in a long time knicks fans have appreciated their coach. The team is young. RJ is playing pretty good against Toronto and right now against the Lakers.

Biggest improvement is Knox
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Old 07-10-2019, 10:40 PM   #13
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Well first time in a long time knicks fans have appreciated their coach. The team is young. RJ is playing pretty good against Toronto and right now against the Lakers.

Biggest improvement is Knox

Knox's face looks like excess clay
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Old 07-10-2019, 10:47 PM   #14
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NBA Comparison: Khris Middleton/Danny Granger
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Old 07-10-2019, 11:01 PM   #15
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rookie who isn't an elite shooter adjusting to the NBA 3-point line. Dante Exum is really Iggy who has molded his game into a PG in the past championship runs.

And Barret's game most likely represents that of CJ McCollum
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