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Old 11-08-2012, 10:02 PM   #16
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Most presidents' first term is better than their second.
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Old 11-08-2012, 10:09 PM   #17
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SERIOUS LOGIC FAIL HERE.

op, think long and hard about what you just said
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Old 11-08-2012, 10:09 PM   #18
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That's not true at all.

People need to get over the butthurt. You don't change rules because your candidate lost. If Romney won would be change the rule back?
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Old 11-08-2012, 10:23 PM   #19
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Most presidents' first term is better than their second.

Looking Sharp, longhorn.
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Old 11-08-2012, 11:45 PM   #20
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I am very worried for the future of my country and it is not just because who is in office, it is because he will have no accountability. In the second term he can do whatever he wants without needing to build a good resume because he doesn't care about whether people agree with what he does anymore. second terms are inherently flawed and undemocratic. The only feasible way to remove him from office would be to impeach him but it will never go all the through because of the senate and needing a supermajority. When they no longer care about public opinion, they can lurch to the extreme left or extreme right. The risks are just enormous.

IMO for a position as important as president, there shouldnt be second terms.

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Well if there were no second terms, then in each president's first term, he would have no accountability according to you.

So, it seems like you made an argument against your own argument.

Unless I misread your post, which i didn't .
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Old 11-09-2012, 12:11 AM   #21
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definitely butt hurt.
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Old 11-09-2012, 01:26 AM   #22
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Are chris paul and obama related now?
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Old 11-09-2012, 11:12 AM   #23
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Also, the party system puts pressure on officials to align with party goals. The success of a last term prez has important impact on the future power and performance of the party.
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Old 11-09-2012, 11:17 AM   #24
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Yeah, things are looking terrible.


GDP performance during the Obama Administration has gone into positive growth.
http://www.tradingeconomics.com/char...01&d2=20120731

US stock markets performance during the Obama Administration...
DOW in 01/20/2009: 7,949.09
DOW in 10/08/2012: 13,583.65
Rate of Return: 70.88%

S&P 500 in 01/20/2009: 805.22
S&P 500 in 10/08/2012: 1,455.88
Rate of Return: 80.81%

NASDAQ in 01/20/2009: 1,440.86
NASDAQ in 10/08/2012: 3,112.35
Rate of Return: 116.01%


US stock markets performance since hitting the bottom on March 9th of 2009...
DOW in 03/09/2009: 6,547.05
DOW in 10/08/2012: 13,583.65
Rate of Return: 107.48%

S&P 500 in 03/09/2009: 676.53
S&P 500 in 10/08/2012: 1,455.88
Rate of Return: 115.20%

NASDAQ in 03/09/2009: 1,268.64
NASDAQ in 10/08/2012: 3,112.35
Rate of Return: 145.30%




Comparing unemployment rate fluctuation between President Bush and President Obama.

Bush
01/20/2001: 4.2%
01/20/2009: 7.8%
Unemployment Rate Change: 85.71% increase

Obama
01/20/2009: 7.8%
Currently: 7.8%
Unemployment Rate Change: 0.00% increase

Comparing unemployment rate fluctuation when their budgets first took place

Bush
01/01/2002: 5.7%
12/31/2009: 9.9%
Unemployment Rate Change: 73.68% increase

Obama
01/01/2010: 9.9%
Currently: 7.8%
Unemployment Rate Change: 21.21% decrease

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Old 11-09-2012, 11:21 AM   #25
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Flame bait much?
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Old 11-09-2012, 11:41 AM   #26
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Taxes will go from 35% -> 39.6% = the sky is falling
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Old 11-09-2012, 11:44 AM   #27
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I'm all for a lame duck term as long as long as the first term shows positive results.
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Old 11-09-2012, 12:16 PM   #28
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Serious question...

Why was Obama's first term a failure? Give me a reason besides the national debt increasing. I'm not being an ass, just wondering what people's views are on this.
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Old 11-09-2012, 12:38 PM   #29
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Why was Obama's first term a failure? Give me a reason besides the national debt increasing. I'm not being an ass, just wondering what people's views are on this.

Because Fox news said so.
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