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10-22-2011, 06:44 PM
#166
Re: Where does Barkley rank all-time?
Originally Posted by Bigsmoke
better scorer, less lazy, better leader, clutch shooting... and oh! Winning titles
Dirk is not a better scorer than Barkley. Barkley was the better scorer, passer and overall offensive player. Barkley was extremely dominant offensively, very few players of his era or later were doubled as much, Shaq, and maybe Hakeem come to mind, but few others.
Originally Posted by D.J.
If Phoenix doesn't have that epic collapse, we're not even having this discussion. It's not like Houston steamrolled through the '95 playoffs. They trailed 2-1 and needed 5 games to beat Utah. They went 7 with Phoenix and went 6 with San Antonio. Prior to playing Orlando, they played in 18 out of a possible 19 games. '94 on the other hand, they played in 16 out of a possible 19 games before playing the Knicks. A 3-1 win over Portland which saw them blowing a win in the 4th quarter of game 3, 4-3 over Phoenix, and 4-1 over Utah. Phoenix was the only one that gave them any sort of difficulty.
They didn't have homecourt advantage in any series in '95, while they had homecourt in every series in '94, that made a huge difference. They were taken to 7 games twice each year. Obviously, their first round series went 5 games in '95 and just 4 in '94, but the Jazz were vastly superior to the '94 Blazers and they won 60 games vs Portland's 47. Their sweep of Orlando says a lot as well considering how talented Orlando was(definitely more talented than the '94 Knicks).
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10-22-2011, 06:46 PM
#167
NBA Legend
Re: Where does Barkley rank all-time?
1. jordan
2. wilt
3. kareem
4. russell
5. larry
6. magic
7. shaq
8. oscar
9. duncan
10. hakeem
11. kobe
12. jerry west
13. moses malone
14. karl malone
15. charles barkley <---
16. julius erving
17. dirk nowitzki
18. lebron james
19. david robinson
20. havlicek / pippen
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10-23-2011, 05:38 PM
#168
Very good NBA starter
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10-23-2011, 11:27 PM
#169
Good college starter
Re: Where does Barkley rank all-time?
Originally Posted by RRR3
there is no "gap" offensively between Chuck and Dirk, at least not in the way where Chuck is ahead. You watched the 2011 playoffs right? Dirk's offense is all time elite. what the hell you laughing at? yourself for thinking Chuck is a significantly superior offensive player?
Barkley shot higher percentage because he's stronger, faster, more athletic, more aggressive at getting layups, whatever. He was not a better shooter anywhere on the court. Is he a better offensive player, if you factor in every aspect? Perhaps, but again, there is NO gap.
i'm not even trying to argue one being better than the other, i was merely stating that Dirk is a superior shooter.
Last edited by EricForman; 10-23-2011 at 11:31 PM.
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10-24-2011, 12:38 AM
#170
Very good NBA starter
Re: Where does Barkley rank all-time?
Originally Posted by EricForman
there is no "gap" offensively between Chuck and Dirk, at least not in the way where Chuck is ahead. You watched the 2011 playoffs right? Dirk's offense is all time elite. what the hell you laughing at? yourself for thinking Chuck is a significantly superior offensive player?
Barkley shot higher percentage because he's stronger, faster, more athletic, more aggressive at getting layups, whatever. He was not a better shooter anywhere on the court. Is he a better offensive player, if you factor in every aspect? Perhaps, but again, there is NO gap.
i'm not even trying to argue one being better than the other, i was merely stating that Dirk is a superior shooter.
Barkley is a Better Face Up Mid Range Shooter
Dirk is a Better Fadeway Shooter.
Barkley dominated the Mid and Post Region like nobody thats why his FG% is Higher than Anyone not named Shaq as a Focal Scorer
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10-24-2011, 12:55 AM
#171
NBA Superstar
Re: Where does Barkley rank all-time?
Barkley is a better ballhandler, creator, post player, and at getting to the line.
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