Is the Harden trade one of the worst in NBA history?

[Dr. Cheesesteak]

alright bro, we'll make sure to remember that "you told us so"

no need to, I'm bookmarking this this thread!

[noob cake]

How about we wait until Lamb and Adams develop? Is that asking too much?

God, I'm gonna turn into the biggest OKC fan over the next few years just to give a big ..l.. to all the idiots on these forums when they win a title w/ Lamb starting and Adams being a key bench player in like 2016.

Do the prospect that OKC get as a direct result of losing more games/losing Harden count toward credits for the Harden trade?

[Lakers Legend#32]

The Curse of the Sonics

[Nuff Said]

Do the prospect that OKC get as a direct result of losing more games/losing Harden count toward credits for the Harden trade?

They had a slightly better winning percent this year tho

[Goldrush25]

B.b.b.b.utttttt didn't happen recently so obviously doesn't matter... right?

No, it obviously doesn't apply because Kobe didn't have much value at the time of the trade. He was a high school phenom, but all NBA players ball out in high school. Doesn't compare to trading the reigning 6th man of the year.

[kennethgriffin]

No, it obviously doesn't apply because no one knew Kobe's value at the time of the trade. Doesn't compare to trading the reigning 6th man of the year.

no one knew hardens true value either. before he went to houston he was ranked as a top 25 player. now hes thought of as a top 5 player in the league by some


bad trades are all hindsight anyway

and kobe was actually already getting hyped up as a legend in the making.

kobe was a star before most people think. doin his own commercials in 96

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEcyhWJkQXI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3C3RnsZL4w

if kobe was some unknown nobody he wouldnt have been that exposed to the media


seriously.. the face of addidas his rookie year... you don't get that flyin under the radar

[noob cake]

They had a slightly better winning percent this year tho

Which was influenced by Harden leaving. Next year's draft, the year after that, etc all could be attributed to Presti trading Harden.

Every step that OKC takes will now be influenced by the Harden trade. Anytime anything goes right, brilliant trade Presti time.

[Heavincent]

It might be. They traded Harden for a one year rental of Martin, and two completely unproven players (Lamb and Adams). That's awful.

[BlazerRed]

Yes, it will most likely go down as one of the worst trades ever if Lamb or those picks don't pan out, but Martin leaving has no bearing on it whatsoever. The Thunder are in a better position if he goes.

[mugiwara]

Harden is not a top 5 player.
It was more the obvious he was the only playmaker, followed by eric mayor. now they have none.
OkC could have really benefitted from good influential veterans instead of perkins, them youngsters plus the non existent coaching leaves their franchise lacking in good basketball culture. they are totally reliant on talent, Westbrook and Durant are so good that they play the game poorly yet win, truly incredible.

[B4llin]

It is, the only explanation I can think of is that the league forced them to trade him to another team needing a superstar.

The Thunder with almost 4 superstars under 25 is unfair to the rest of the league, and the league wanted the talent distributed evenly.

It was easy for anyone to see how good Harden is and will be.

[2LeTTeRS]

It is, the only explanation I can think of is that the league forced them to trade him to another team needing a superstar.

The Thunder with almost 4 superstars under 25 is unfair to the rest of the league, and the league wanted the talent distributed evenly.

It was easy for anyone to see how good Harden is and will be.

No it was much simpler than that, the Thunder just didn't want to pay the luxury tax.

[turnaroundJ]

Possibly both.

I still contend when Paul was on the block not wanting to stay in New Orleans, OKC should've offered Westbrook (a natural SG) for him.

CP3 / Harden / Durant meshes very well together, don't you think? Do you honestly think that with a team leader like Chris Paul, a true point guard who is miles more intelligent and level headed as opposed to the feminine emotional Westbrook, while being just as competitive wouldn't make OKC the meanest possible title contender?

Paul / Harden / Sefalosha / Durant / Ibaka

Whose beating that team, honestly? Paul on pick and pops with Durant, or Harden would be sick.

But this is wrong.

Westbrook can play off-ball quite well, while Harden can play to his strengths (playmaking, ballhandling). Paul and Harden would be redundant. And the defense would be worse.

[guy]

It was one of the worst trades not because of who they got back but because of the timing. The trade was completely unnecessary to make at the time. They could've easily just waited a year. The Thunder this past year may have made the Finals again AND they could've traded him for more i.e. Cavs pick+Dion Waiters for example.

[SilkkTheShocker]

Golden State and Washington passing on Harden is just as a big of a joke. Washington didn't want to trade Beal?