Has Wade Ever Been The BEST Player in Basketball?

[insidious301]

Arguable years at best:

2006 - Kobe and LeBron had more winshares, PER, raw stats, and Garnett, Duncan and Shaq all had a higher Regularized Adjusted Plus Minus (RAPM)
2009 - LeBron had more winshares, PER, better raw stats, and beat a team that Wade struggled against in a 4 game sweep, while putting up better numbers.
2010 - Dwight and LeBron had better PER, while Kobe had better raw stats with the accolades.
2011 - Dwight and LeBron had better PER, winshares, raw stats, and a better Regularized Adjusted Plus Minues (RAPM)

Decided to make this thread after reading people say he shouldn't be an all star. Feels like his career has always been in the shadows of both Kobe or LeBron, and in Miami, Shaq.

[handbanana]

2006 - Kobe and LeBron had more winshares, PER, raw stats, and Garnett, Duncan and Shaq all had a higher Regularized Adjusted Plus Minus (RAPM)

not what i'm seeing here: http://www.basketball-reference.com/...er_top_10.html

wade was #1 in per in 2006

[miggyme1]

Arguable years at best:

2006 - Kobe and LeBron had more winshares, PER, raw stats, and Garnett, Duncan and Shaq all had a higher Regularized Adjusted Plus Minus (RAPM)
2009 - LeBron had more winshares, PER, better raw stats, and beat a team that Wade struggled against in a 4 game sweep, while putting up better numbers.
2010 - Dwight and LeBron had better PER, while Kobe had better raw stats with the accolades.
2011 - Dwight and LeBron had better PER, winshares, raw stats, and a better Regularized Adjusted Plus Minues (RAPM)

Decided to make this thread after reading people say he shouldn't be an all star. Feels like his career has always been in the shadows of both Kobe or LeBron, and in Miami, Shaq.

YEA IT HAS....he nor melo should be allstars this year.

[insidious301]

not what i'm seeing here: http://www.basketball-reference.com/...er_top_10.html

wade was #1 in per in 2006

You're looking at 2007, but he was injured for most of that season, ultimately flaming out in the playoffs.

[Real Men Wear Green]

He was the best player on an NBA Champ in 2006. Shaq was there but Shaq did very little in the Finals, especially by Shaq standards. He's never been better than James IMO but that year he had an argument for being the best player in the game.

[OnFire]

Arguable years at best:

2006 - Kobe and LeBron had more winshares, PER, raw stats, and Garnett, Duncan and Shaq all had a higher Regularized Adjusted Plus Minus (RAPM)
2009 - LeBron had more winshares, PER, better raw stats, and beat a team that Wade struggled against in a 4 game sweep, while putting up better numbers.
2010 - Dwight and LeBron had better PER, while Kobe had better raw stats with the accolades.
2011 - Dwight and LeBron had better PER, winshares, raw stats, and a better Regularized Adjusted Plus Minues (RAPM)

Decided to make this thread after reading people say he shouldn't be an all star. Feels like his career has always been in the shadows of both Kobe or LeBron, and in Miami, Shaq.

He's never been the best player in the league. I'm a huge Wade fan. I've never heard someone say he was the best player in the league.

I've heard people say top 5, top 3.... so.. thats it.

Also, he dragged Shaq's ass through the finals. Wade was not in anybody's shadow on the Heat except maybe when LeBron came and to me I only seen that from fake band wagoners who are slowly falling away thankfully.

They don't call it Shaq County or Bron County its Wade County.

[miggyme1]

He was the best player on an NBA Champ in 2006. Shaq was there but Shaq did very little in the Finals, especially by Shaq standards. He's never been better than James IMO but that year he had an argument for being the best player in the game.

true but dwade finished 6th in mvp voting that year......and IMO the heat had no choice but to win a title that year...they fired svg midway through the season for pat riley....that was a VERY desperate move. once u do something like that you have to win it all cuz svg is not a slouch coach by any means.

[Keno]

as many times as kobe was the best player in basketball.

[mehyaM24]

well, not unless you're willing to say the 2006 championship run has an asterisk stapled to it. it was BY FAR the worst officiated series ever. people are too enamored with his PPG output but he took 17 FTA to render these numbers. not impressive IMO, but aside from that finals, lebron and kobe were better players that year.

alonzo mourning and even shaq to this day says kobe was better that season. just some food for thought.

[OnFire]

well, not unless you're willing to say the 2006 championship run has an asterisk stapled to it. it was BY FAR the worst officiated series ever. people are too enamored with his PPG output but he took 17 FTA to render these numbers. not impressive IMO, but aside from that finals, lebron and kobe were better players that year.

alonzo mourning and even shaq to this day says kobe was better that season. just some food for thought.

So lots of free throw attempts should discount the scoring... Ok because Wade's 2006 playoffs is still behind TWO Michael Jordan playoff seasons and TWO Shaq playoff seasons.

So shaq and jordan's finals mvp's are bullshit right?

And your last sentence is my whole main point. Its a stupid argument, nobody has ever said Wade was the best player in the league in any 1 season.

[Mass Debator]

He has never been the clear-cut best player in the league, but it's arguable that he was the best in 2006, 2009, and 2011.

[supernova5912]

Wade had an insane season in 08-09. He was the first player to average 30+/5+/7+/2+/1+ with a 57+ TS%. He also didn't struggle in the playoffs. His team was completely overmatched but he still managed to make it a 7 game series. Literally, he had the draft bust Beasley, a past-prime Jermaine O Neal, and a lottery roster while facing a team with an efficient Josh Smith, Mike Bibby, Joe Johnson, and Josh Smith. While LeBron didn't have a stacked roster, he still had Big Z, Mo Williams, Varejo, and even Delonte West wasn't even that bad. It's pretty arguable that he was the best that year. It's not clear-cut though.

[GrapeApe]

Probably not, though it's rare that a player is the clear cut best. In the last 25 years I'd say only Jordan, Shaq, and LeBron have had that distinction. Of course there's other guys who in hindsight have a strong case (Wade included), but those 3 are the only ones who were the concensus best from day one right through the end of the season.

[insidious301]

well, not unless you're willing to say the 2006 championship run has an asterisk stapled to it. it was BY FAR the worst officiated series ever. people are too enamored with his PPG output but he took 17 FTA to render these numbers. not impressive IMO, but aside from that finals, lebron and kobe were better players that year.

alonzo mourning and even shaq to this day says kobe was better that season. just some food for thought.

I have often argued the 2006 finals was a HUGE black mark on the league as a hole. People shouldn't use this series as a means to crown Wade, especially knowing what LeBron and Kobe did to the Mavs in the regular season.

Kobe hung 61 in 3 quarters on them
LeBron averaged ~40ppg vs them

Wade is a great player, and depreciated, but will always be in Kobe and LeBron's shadow.

[BasedTom]

Arguable years at best:

2006 - Kobe and LeBron had more winshares, PER, raw stats, and Garnett, Duncan and Shaq all had a higher Regularized Adjusted Plus Minus (RAPM)
2009 - LeBron had more winshares, PER, better raw stats, and beat a team that Wade struggled against in a 4 game sweep, while putting up better numbers.
2010 - Dwight and LeBron had better PER, while Kobe had better raw stats with the accolades.
2011 - Dwight and LeBron had better PER, winshares, raw stats, and a better Regularized Adjusted Plus Minues (RAPM)

Decided to make this thread after reading people say he shouldn't be an all star. Feels like his career has always been in the shadows of both Kobe or LeBron, and in Miami, Shaq.

Those people clearly don't watch basketball. Or they think Wade plays in the west.