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Old 03-14-2009, 04:23 PM   #61
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Wow you people are dumb.

You think the only alternative to being a conservative is being a socialist? Every thing on the left wing is socialist? Typical Hannity/Limbaugh talking points type of BS there.

Pure capitalism has failed just as often as socialism and communism (Victorian England, 1800s and early 1900s America). The best system that has developed is Capitalism with selective government involvement/regulation.
How about we follow the ****ing constitution for a change? nah nah that would be dumb. you know it's not like those guys knew anything at all.... yeah obama>founding fathers... obama!!
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Old 03-14-2009, 04:32 PM   #62
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Yeah nobody voted for Obama simply because hes black.

And nobody voted against him because he was black, right?

Stop being stupid and argue the point. Conservatives aren't winning another general election until they pander to someone other than racist bigots. Not saying all conservatives are racist bigots, just that their base is made up of these people.

Sarah Palin is a damn shame. Anyone who is Republican should be ashamed of having someone so STUPID and IGNORANT on a national ticket. But, that's conservatives for you.
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Old 03-14-2009, 04:38 PM   #63
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And nobody voted against him because he was black, right?

Stop being stupid and argue the point. Conservatives aren't winning another general election until they pander to someone other than racist bigots. Not saying all conservatives are racist bigots, just that their base is made up of these people.

Sarah Palin is a damn shame. Anyone who is Republican should be ashamed of having someone so STUPID and IGNORANT on a national ticket. But, that's conservatives for you.

Your best argument is democrats are better than republicans. If Hitlers a republican you'll bash him. If Hitlers a democrat you'll tell me hes still better than republican Hitler. This is why I came up with the analogy that talking politics with a conservative or liberal is like debating a rabid gorilla. I try to talk logic and reason but you would rather fling your own **** around the room and play in it.
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Old 03-14-2009, 04:41 PM   #64
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How about we follow the ****ing constitution for a change? nah nah that would be dumb. you know it's not like those guys knew anything at all.... yeah obama>founding fathers... obama!!
Bush was the one who may be the most unconstitutional president ever. Spying on citizens? Torturing? Imprisoning Americans without a warrant if thought to be enemies of US as part of a "surveillance program"? Gitmo?

Obama is the one restoring all the safeguards guaranteed by the bill of rights. But SOMEHOW the Republicans have convinced people they are the ones fighting for it

And another thing, Americans need to stop thinking a document written in the 18th century, though very influential and perhaps inherently correct, is an invincible flawless piece of document that can be applied to every single political issue in the 21st century. Quit being so narrow minded.
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Your best argument is democrats are better than republicans. If Hitlers a republican you'll bash him. If Hitlers a democrat you'll tell me hes still better than republican Hitler. This is why I came up with the analogy that talking politics with a conservative or liberal is like debating a rabid gorilla. I try to talk logic and reason but you would rather fling your own **** around the room and play in it.


The hell?

So why did conservatives lose this past election? Look at that video of Hannity in late September saying the economy wasn't as bad as people were making it out to be.

Simply put, Americans, and the world, got tired of Cowboy conservatives. They tried to make the election about Obama's associations instead of mapping out a plan to better the country.

"The economy is fundamentally strong" John McCain.

"Russia is next to Alaska, so I'm qualified on national security" Sarah Palin


The election might have been a bit different had conservatives had a decent candidate with some actual policy positions.
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Old 03-14-2009, 04:48 PM   #66
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Could you imagine if John "economy is strong" McCain and Sarah Palin were navigating this economic mess? Would surely have been the end of America.
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The hell?

So why did conservatives lose this past election? Look at that video of Hannity in late September saying the economy wasn't as bad as people were making it out to be.

Simply put, Americans, and the world, got tired of Cowboy conservatives. They tried to make the election about Obama's associations instead of mapping out a plan to better the country.

"The economy is fundamentally strong" John McCain.

"Russia is next to Alaska, so I'm qualified on national security" Sarah Palin


The election might have been a bit different had conservatives had a decent candidate with some actual policy positions.

McCain ran one of the worst campaigns ever while Obama ran one of the best. I was very critical of Obama because I knew he was gonna win. America was sick of Bush and weren't gonna vote for anybody like him and I was one of those people. Sarah Palin even having the slightest chance to hold office is ****ing frightening to me. Thats why I'm so opposed to ideology because I believe its dangerous.
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