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Old 02-15-2008, 01:53 PM   #1
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Default 2005 NBA Draft Do-Over

Here is a do over of the 2005 draft according to how players have worked out so far.

1. Milwaukee - Chris Paul
2. Atlanta - Deron Williams
3. Utah - Andrew Bogut
4. New Orleans - Marvin Williams
5. Charlotte - Andrew Bynum
6. Portland - Danny Granger
7. Toronto - Monta Ellis
8. New York - David Lee
9. Golden State - Charlie Villanueva
10. LA Lakers - Raymond Felton
11. Orlando - Andray Blatche
12. LA Clippers - Martell Webster
13. Charlotte - Jarrett Jack
14. Minnesota - Franciso Garcia
15. New Jersey - Louis Williams
16. Toronto - Gerald Green
17. Indiana - Brandon Bass
18. Boston - Antoine Wright
19. Memphis - Jason Maxiell
20. Denver - Ike Diogu
21. Phoenix - Luther Head
22. Denver - Hakim Warrick
23. Sacramento - Channing Frye
24. Houston - Rashad McCants
25. Seattle - Wayne Simien
26. Detroit - Joey Graham
27. Portland - Travis Dienir
28. San Antonio - Ronnie Turaf
29. Miami - Sean May
30. New York - Ryan Gomes
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Old 02-15-2008, 08:03 PM   #2
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Frye and Gomes should be higher
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Old 02-16-2008, 12:35 AM   #3
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Here is a do over of the 2005 draft according to how players have worked out so far.

Well then, there is a lot wrong with this list isn't there? I'll split this up into a few pieces so it makes it easy to figure out.

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1. Milwaukee - Chris Paul =
2. Atlanta - Deron Williams =
3. Utah - Andrew Bogut <
4. New Orleans - Marvin Williams <
5. Charlotte - Andrew Bynum <
6. Portland - Danny Granger >

If it's going on who's been working the best so far, then shouldn't Granger be ahead of Bynum, and Marvin Williams at least? The guy was putting up like 20ppg when the season begun and is doing a hell of a better job than Williams right now. Bynum is still in development

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7. Toronto - Monta Ellis =
8. New York - David Lee =
9. Golden State - Charlie Villanueva <
10. LA Lakers - Raymond Felton <
11. Orlando - Andray Blatche <

There's a lot of questionable calls here. Webster and Jack missing out for Blatche (does he even play?) and Villanueva doesn't really serve you any justice. Also this is somewhere where you could look to be McCants and maybe even Gomes. Gomes is really underrated in your list.

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12. LA Clippers - Martell Webster >
13. Charlotte - Jarrett Jack >
14. Minnesota - Franciso Garcia >
15. New Jersey - Louis Williams <
16. Toronto - Gerald Green <
17. Indiana - Brandon Bass =
18. Boston - Antoine Wright =
19. Memphis - Jason Maxiell >

Maxiell should be a lot higher on this list. I'm not really taken back by any of the rest. Green is going to end up in Europe in a few years the way he's going. Can't even amount to anything in Minnesota. Bass is good and should stay in the league, but I think he might be too high right now. Williams is still a project and could go with a much lower pick over people who deserve it. And I honestly don't understand how Wright is struggling to cement himself in the NBA. He's a damn solid player.

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20. Denver - Ike Diogu <
21. Phoenix - Luther Head >
22. Denver - Hakim Warrick >
23. Sacramento - Channing Frye >
24. Houston - Rashad McCants >

Diogu should be at the bottom of this list. Warrick, Fry, McCants and possibly even Head could have all gone inside, or somewhere around the lottery. Diogu has been a massive failure right now - everyone was predicting so much from him.

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25. Seattle - Wayne Simien <
26. Detroit - Joey Graham =
27. Portland - Travis Dienir <
28. San Antonio - Ronnie Turaf =
29. Miami - Sean May =
30. New York - Ryan Gomes >

Gomes is WAYYYY too low. He's apparently not better than Simien who's barely played enough minutes in the NBA to warrant himself as anything thus far. Diener is a 12th man at best whilst Gomes is a fringe starter, May has been injured and is all but done - I think. Turiaf is a good cheerleader, but not a better ball player than Gomes.

Also, I put little arrows to notify whether I think they're better or worse than you ranked them.
> means better
< means worse
= means about the same.


Try again.

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Old 02-16-2008, 03:48 AM   #4
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1. Milwaukee - Chris Paul
2. Atlanta - Deron Williams
3. Utah - Andrew Bynum
4. New Orleans - Andrew Bogut
5. Charlotte - Monta Ellis
6. Portland - Danny Granger
7. Toronto - Marvin Williams
8. New York - David Lee
9. Golden State - Raymond Felton
10. LA Lakers - Ryan Gomes
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Old 02-16-2008, 03:56 AM   #5
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Well then, there is a lot wrong with this list isn't there? I'll split this up into a few pieces so it makes it easy to figure out.



If it's going on who's been working the best so far, then shouldn't Granger be ahead of Bynum, and Marvin Williams at least? The guy was putting up like 20ppg when the season begun and is doing a hell of a better job than Williams right now. Bynum is still in development



There's a lot of questionable calls here. Webster and Jack missing out for Blatche (does he even play?) and Villanueva doesn't really serve you any justice. Also this is somewhere where you could look to be McCants and maybe even Gomes. Gomes is really underrated in your list.



Maxiell should be a lot higher on this list. I'm not really taken back by any of the rest. Green is going to end up in Europe in a few years the way he's going. Can't even amount to anything in Minnesota. Bass is good and should stay in the league, but I think he might be too high right now. Williams is still a project and could go with a much lower pick over people who deserve it. And I honestly don't understand how Wright is struggling to cement himself in the NBA. He's a damn solid player.



Diogu should be at the bottom of this list. Warrick, Fry, McCants and possibly even Head could have all gone inside, or somewhere around the lottery. Diogu has been a massive failure right now - everyone was predicting so much from him.



Gomes is WAYYYY too low. He's apparently not better than Simien who's barely played enough minutes in the NBA to warrant himself as anything thus far. Diener is a 12th man at best whilst Gomes is a fringe starter, May has been injured and is all but done - I think. Turiaf is a good cheerleader, but not a better ball player than Gomes.

Also, I put little arrows to notify whether I think they're better or worse than you ranked them.
> means better
< means worse
= means about the same.


Try again.

Do you know who the Wizards are even? DOES ANDRAY BLATCHE PLAY? Try 52 games played, 9 starts, 20.2 minutes per game, 7.2 points, 5.3 rebounds, 1 assist, 1.5 blocks, 47.3% shooting.
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Old 02-16-2008, 11:43 AM   #6
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1.Deron Williams
2.Chris paul
3. Bynum
4. Monta Ellis

That's how the first four should have gone.
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Old 03-01-2008, 06:31 PM   #7
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Nice work and I'm not gonna diss you cause you put some time in it, but I don't know anyone in the world that would take Andrew Bogut over Andrew Bynum.
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Old 03-02-2008, 12:03 AM   #8
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Why couldn't you have just quoted one part instead of the whole thing Skan72?

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Do you know who the Wizards are even? DOES ANDRAY BLATCHE PLAY? Try 52 games played, 9 starts, 20.2 minutes per game, 7.2 points, 5.3 rebounds, 1 assist, 1.5 blocks, 47.3% shooting.

*tries*

Yep, still not an 11th pick. Not to mention that Orlando is the only team I follow religiously in the NBA. Trust me, I would know more than you do what's good for them. But since you insisted on getting into it, let's see now:

Martell Webster:
6'7, plays multiple positions, one of the league leaders in 3's made.
28mpg | 10.4ppg | 3.9rpg | 1.2apg

Jarret Jack:
6'3 PG, plays off the bench, solid game
27.4mpg | 9.8ppg | 3.0rpg | 4.0apg | 1.1spg

David Lee:
6'8 PF, great rebounder, comes off the bench
27.9mpg | 10.5ppg | 8.5rpg | 1.1apg



I could go on with another 5 or 6 players who, right now, are better than Blatche. Blatche is only playing (yeah, I knew he was playing before, it's just called an exaggeration because he's not actually that good) because of the weakness of the front court in Washington. Just because you have a man crush on him doesn't make him good.
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Old 03-02-2008, 12:10 AM   #9
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Why couldn't you have just quoted one part instead of the whole thing Skan72?



*tries*

Yep, still not an 11th pick. Not to mention that Orlando is the only team I follow religiously in the NBA. Trust me, I would know more than you do what's good for them. But since you insisted on getting into it, let's see now:

Martell Webster:
6'7, plays multiple positions, one of the league leaders in 3's made.
28mpg | 10.4ppg | 3.9rpg | 1.2apg

Jarret Jack:
6'3 PG, plays off the bench, solid game
27.4mpg | 9.8ppg | 3.0rpg | 4.0apg | 1.1spg

David Lee:
6'8 PF, great rebounder, comes off the bench
27.9mpg | 10.5ppg | 8.5rpg | 1.1apg



I could go on with another 5 or 6 players who, right now, are better than Blatche. Blatche is only playing (yeah, I knew he was playing before, it's just called an exaggeration because he's not actually that good) because of the weakness of the front court in Washington. Just because you have a man crush on him doesn't make him good.

Lee would be a good hustle player next to Howard.
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Old 03-02-2008, 12:13 AM   #10
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Lee would be a good hustle player next to Howard.

Definitely would. Would be a great starting PF for us.

Jack would be a better PG than anything we have right now and Webster would give us size, strength and shooting ability from the back court. All better than anything Blatche could offer the Magic. Then, as I said, there's another 5 or 6 players I would take over Blatche as well. Just because he's putting up numbers doesn't actually mean he's better than the others.
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Old 03-15-2008, 01:31 AM   #11
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1. Milwaukee - Chris Paul
2. Atlanta - Deron Williams
3. Utah - Andrew Bynum
4. New Orleans - Monta Ellis
5. Charlotte - Andrew Bogut
6. Portland - Danny Granger
7. Toronto - Marvin Williams
8. New York - David Lee
9. Golden State - Charlie Villanueva
10. LA Lakers - Raymond Felton
11. Orlando - Andray Blatche
12. LA Clippers - Martell Webster
13. Charlotte - Jason Maxiell
14. Minnesota - Louis Williams
15. New Jersey - Frisco Garcia
16. Toronto - Rashad McCants
17. Indiana - Brandon Bass
18. Boston - Antoine Wright
19. Memphis - Jarrett Jack
20. Denver - Ryan Gomes
21. Phoenix - Luther Head
22. Denver - Hakim Warrick
23. Sacramento - Channing Frye
24. Houston - Gerald Green
25. Seattle - Wayne Simien
26. Detroit - Joey Graham
27. Portland - Travis Dienir
28. San Antonio - Ronnie Turaf
29. Miami - Sean May
30. New York - Ike Diogu
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Old 03-15-2008, 01:32 AM   #12
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1.Deron Williams
2.Chris paul
3. Bynum
4. Monta Ellis

That's how the first four should have gone.
i didnt even see ur response when i made my adjustments
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Old 06-27-2008, 10:17 PM   #13
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1. Milwaukee - Chris Paul
2. Atlanta - Deron Williams
3. Utah - Andrew Bogut
4. New Orleans - Marvin Williams
5. Charlotte - Andrew Bynum
6. Portland - Danny Granger
7. Toronto - Monta Ellis
8. New York - David Lee
9. Golden State - Charlie Villanueva
10. Los Angeles Lakers - Ryan Gomes
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