MJ's defense.

[ClipperRevival]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4gigN2zMU4

One of the most IMPACTFUL perimeter defenders ever. The word IMPACT gets taken for granted sometimes but in the end, that's what being great is all about. The more you impact the game on both ends, the greater you give your team a chance to win.

[mehyaM24]

One of the most IMPACTFUL perimeter defenders ever

jordan was a good defender amid the first threepeat, but he was never the most "impactful".


that title belonged to the bulls' captain, and lead playmaker and defender, scottie pippen.


i cant post the numbers right now (looks as though the website i want to link you is down)

but pippen's numbers on the defensive end completely shred jordan.


thats not to say dude was awful, but not nearly one of the most impactful as you eluded to.

[sportjames23]

http://m.youtube.com/results?q=best%...he%20game&sm=3

One of the most IMPACTFUL perimeter defenders ever. The word IMPACT gets taken for granted sometimes but in the end, that's what being great is all about. The more you impact the game on both ends, the greater you give your team a chance to win.

[ClipperRevival]

jordan was a good defender amid the first threepeat, but he was never the most "impactful".


that title belonged to the bulls' captain, and lead playmaker and defender, scottie pippen.


i cant post the numbers right now (looks as though the website i want to link you is down)

but pippen's numbers on the defensive end completely shred jordan.


thats not to say dude was awful, but not nearly one of the most impactful as you eluded to.

MJ not only had the off the charts quickness to keep his man in front of him but as the video showed, no one was better at turning defense into offense. That's a 4 point swing. That's impact. Some great defenders rely on positioning, keeping his man between himself and the basket and only try to contest shots. And that's how you should play D. But MJ could not only do that but had the ability to further impact the game by jumping passing lanes, providing great weakside help, one of the best shot blocking guards ever (1.5 bpg over a 3 year stretch), ability to exploit ball handlers who get careless for a second and sneak up from behind and get a steal. His defensive impact wasn't limited to just good positioning, he took it to another level by creating turnovers (5th all time in bpg).

[Rocketswin2013]

One of the most disruptive perimeter defenders ever still can't approach a big mans impact. Just the way it is.

[sportjames23]

One of the most disruptive perimeter defenders ever still can't approach a big mans impact. Just the way it is.

So? Didn't stop him from becoming the GOAT.

Just the way it is.

[G0ATbe]

Agreed. This explains why Jordan routinely avoided Kobe like the plague on defense.

[Rocketswin2013]

So? Didn't stop him from becoming the GOAT.

Just the way it is.

Yes. Can you offer anything else to this forum other than the little-known fact that Jordan was the greatest player in the history of the sport?

[Bawkish]

Agreed. This explains why Jordan routinely avoided Kobe like the plague on defense.

he's giving the poor kid a chance to not wet himself while facing him

[9erempiree]

http://m.youtube.com/results?q=best%...he%20game&sm=3

One of the most IMPACTFUL perimeter defenders ever. The word IMPACT gets taken for granted sometimes but in the end, that's what being great is all about. The more you impact the game on both ends, the greater you give your team a chance to win.

Very deceiving video considering the era.

You guys have to remember MJ had the luxury of playing in hand checking era. If he played in today's era he would get blown-by with ease.

He got to use his hands and everything.

This is why I say he's overrated on defense.

[9erempiree]

One of the most disruptive perimeter defenders ever still can't approach a big mans impact. Just the way it is.

MJ would foul it immediately with today's rules.

[aj1987]

Very deceiving video considering the era.

You guys have to remember MJ had the luxury of playing in hand checking era. If he played in today's era he would get blown-by with ease.

He got to use his hands and everything.

This is why I say he's overrated on defense.

You do know that MJ is literally better than your idol at every aspect of athleticism, right? If Kobe can make 12 All-Def teams, MJ is making 15 for sure.

Oh, and according to your logic, Kobe wouldn't even come close to being as good as he is right now on offense, if he played in the '80's/'90's (his prime).

EDIT: Title should be changed to "sportjames23 still riding MJ's D".

[9erempiree]

You do know that MJ is literally better than your idol at every aspect of athleticism, right? If Kobe can make 12 All-Def teams, MJ is making 15 for sure.

Oh, and according to your logic, Kobe wouldn't even come close to being as good as he is right now on offense, if he played in the '80's/'90's (his prime).

EDIT: Title should be changed to "sportjames23 still riding MJ's D".

A thread about MJ and his fans proceed to bring up Kobe. MJ has been retired for a long time now. Stop trying to bring up Kobe's name in a thread about MJ to make kids believe that MJ is 'god' since Kobe's name is brought up. Also, Kobe's played in the hand checking era too.

Back to the topic at hand in regards to MJ's defense, while he was good defensively, he had the luxury of using his hands and they can play 'zone'...MJ would camp out and cut off passing lanes.

It is just one of the many benefits of being able to use your hands to push, shove and pull.

The OP kindly put up a link to a search...you guys can choose various video and see what I am talking about.

[aj1987]

A thread about MJ and his fans proceed to bring up Kobe. MJ has been retired for a long time now. Stop trying to bring up Kobe's name in a thread about MJ to make kids believe that MJ is 'god' since Kobe's name is brought up. Also, Kobe's played in the hand checking era too.

I'm only bringing up Kobe because your dumbass thinks he wouldn't be as effective in today's game. How did Kobe do in the hand check era, compared to post hand check era?

Back to the topic at hand in regards to MJ's defense, while he was good defensively, he had the luxury of using his hands and they can play 'zone'...MJ would camp out and cut off passing lanes.

It is just one of the many benefits of being able to use your hands to push, shove and pull.

Again, in your earlier post, you claimed that MJ would not be as effective because he wasn't athletic enough. He's literally better than Kobe in all departments of athleticism. If Kobe can get voted to 12 All-Def teams (half of which are a sham), MJ is making 15 All-Def first teams.

The OP kindly put up a link to a search...you guys can choose various video and see what I am talking about.

You should change your title to 27 minutes of watching the NBA.

[Dragonyeuw]

Very deceiving video considering the era.

You guys have to remember MJ had the luxury of playing in hand checking era. If he played in today's era he would get blown-by with ease.

He got to use his hands and everything.

This is why I say he's overrated on defense.

Why wouldn't MJ adapt to the rules of today? Or the greats of today adapting to yesteryear's rules? Isn't the point of calling certain players 'all-time' greats that their abilities transcend eras and they'd adapt to the rules of the day? It's not as if athletically MJ would have a hard time keeping up with today's wings.