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    Default Re: Warriors big 4 = Cavs big 4

    Quote Originally Posted by tpols
    "Cavs got taken to 6 by the Raptors" lmao


    im not trying to be a **** but that is too much man.. in their wins the Cavs won every game in complete blowout fashion and that ECF was one of the most uncompetitive bouts especially compared to battles being done out west. At no point was Cleveland even remotely threatened by toronto and you know it..


    you're just being very dishonest right now.
    There's nothing dishonest about saying the Cavs got taken to 6 by the Raptors. That is true. It's just a mark of how flawed that Cavs team was. They got blown out games 1 and 2 of the finals too

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    Default Re: Warriors big 4 = Cavs big 4

    Quote Originally Posted by J Shuttlesworth
    I guess by tpols logic, The Cavs should be the same odds as the Warriors to win it all?

    Oh wait wait? The Warriors were favorites before they signed Durant? How is that possible? Didn't Vegas have a good talent evaluator like tpols to convince them the teams are equal?



    The Cavs have better odds to make it out of their conference than the Warriors do. The best odds for East contender is 25/1.. out West the Spurs are 11/1. They literally have double the chance.



    where the difference in total odds is made up is people think the Warriors are going to lay a collosal ass whooping on the Cavs in the Finals.. i guess based on the fact that's what they were doing to them last year when both teams were at full strength

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    Default Re: Warriors big 4 = Cavs big 4

    Quote Originally Posted by tpols
    The Cavs have better odds to make it out of their conference than the Warriors do. The best odds for East contender is 25/1.. out West the Spurs are 11/1. They literally have double the chance.



    where the difference in total odds is made up is people think the Warriors are going to lay a collosal ass whooping on the Cavs in the Finals.. i guess based on the fact that's what they were doing to them last year when both teams were at full strength
    Maybe because both teams have a cakewalk to the finals, yet one team has a 4 all star starting lineup?

    But yes let's continue to act like despite 4 starting all stars, the Warriors big 4 is the same as the Cavs

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    Default Re: Warriors big 4 = Cavs big 4

    Quote Originally Posted by J Shuttlesworth
    There's nothing dishonest about saying the Cavs got taken to 6 by the Raptors. That is true. It's just a mark of how flawed that Cavs team was. They got blown out games 1 and 2 of the finals too

    The Cavs were shattering efficiency records through the East last year.. there was nothing flawed about them. Saying the raptors took them to six in an attempt to paint the series as competitive is dishonest. You know that.

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    Default Re: Warriors big 4 = Cavs big 4

    So the Cavs weren't flawed despite getting blown out twice by the Raptors and twice in the finals?

    Also pick one:
    A. The 2016 Warriors >>>> Cavs when healthy
    B. The 2017 big four are equal to the Cavs

    You can't have both.. Those statements contradict each other and you have made both of those in this thread.

    Boy the finals truly did a number on you huh? There isn't a single person who believes that the Warriors aren't far and ahead the most stacked team in a long time, and your avatar shows exactly why. You see the reason every time you make a post and yet you still don't get that 4 of the starting all stars in the conference you say is supremely stacked are all on the same team

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    Default Re: Warriors big 4 = Cavs big 4

    Quote Originally Posted by Ca$H
    KD vs Bran

    Curry vs Kyrie

    Klay vs Love

    Draygod vs Tristan


    None of these match-ups seem lopsided. It's an even battle.
    The bolded go to G State pretty easily.

    And Draymond vs Tristan is quite lopsided. Draymond is a top 20 player at worst, and probably the best non-scorer in the entire league. Tristan's around top 50 perhaps.




    But what's even worse is what comes next:

    Igoudala and David West vs JR Smith and Shumpert

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    Default Re: Warriors big 4 = Cavs big 4

    Quote Originally Posted by tmacattack33
    The bolded go to G State pretty easily.

    And Draymond vs Tristan is quite lopsided. Draymond is a top 20 player at worst. Tristan's around top 50 perhaps.




    But what's even worse is what comes next:

    Igoudala and Bogut vs JR Smith and Shumpert
    Bogut's not on the team anymore brah

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    Default Re: Warriors big 4 = Cavs big 4

    Draymond is quite clearly eons better than Tristan. Draymond is better than Klay too.

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    Default Re: Warriors big 4 = Cavs big 4

    tpols getting destroyed by JShuttlesworth

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    Default Re: Warriors big 4 = Cavs big 4

    Quote Originally Posted by tpols
    The Cavs were shattering efficiency records through the East last year.. there was nothing flawed about them. Saying the raptors took them to six in an attempt to paint the series as competitive is dishonest. You know that.
    uh their defense... Don't know how people could forget before the Finals, Cavs defense wasn't great. Ofc, the Warriors defense was underperforming too(even vs the Blazers). Not one person here including yourself actually believes OP's statement however especially Dray=TT.

    Quote Originally Posted by tpols
    The Cavs have better odds to make it out of their conference than the Warriors do. The best odds for East contender is 25/1.. out West the Spurs are 11/1. They literally have double the chance.



    where the difference in total odds is made up is people think the Warriors are going to lay a collosal ass whooping on the Cavs in the Finals.. i guess based on the fact that's what they were doing to them last year when both teams were at full strength
    that makes sense but it just aint true. Big part of the Celtics having lower odds than the Spurs is the warriors being tougher than the Cavs in Vegas' mind. You know they have odds for likely to win Eastern and Western conference right. Both Cavs and Warriors have exact the same odds to win their conference 1/3. FYI Spurs and Celtics also have the exact same odds to win their conference 8/1. http://www.vegasinsider.com/nba/odds/futures/
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