Kobe with only 2 Finals MVP is proof Shaq carried Kobe

[SouBeachTalents]

Okay thanks for confirming Kobe > Kareem.

To be fair, Kareem was robbed of Finals MVP in 1980. Dude should easily have 3

[Marchesk]

Bill Russell

7 for 11?

[SouBeachTalents]

Bill Russell

7 for 11?

Had all the awards existed in his era, Russell would have roughly had a resume of 5 MVP's, 7 Finals MVP's, and 11 DPOY

[DaOldLion]

Lol, OP clearly showed Finals MVP to title ratio, not Finals MVP to Finals appearance ratio

riiight so Bird would have been better for being 2/2 than 2/3, because losing in the finals > winning a ring without a FMVP

[JT123]

More stats from the 2000 Finals

Shaq's rpg: 17
Kobe's ppg: 16

Shaq's ppg: 38
Kobe's fg%: 37

But...but they were 1a and 1b!

[SouBeachTalents]

riiight so Bird would have been better for being 2/2 than 2/3, because losing in the finals > winning a ring without a FMVP

When the **** did I say, or even imply that? All I did was state what OP said, something you misinterpreted incorrectly

[KirbyPls]

Had all the awards existed in his era, Russell would have roughly had a resume of 5 MVP's, 7 Finals MVP's, and 11 DPOY

Not bad considering the part-time postal workers, janitors and truck drivers had mean low post defense back then.

[Showtime2001]

If Miami won in 2011 Wade would have 2 FMVP's.

[SouBeachTalents]

If Miami won in 2011 Wade would have 2 FMVP's.

Yep, would have been huge for his legacy

[DaOldLion]

When the **** did I say, or even imply that? All I did was state what OP said, something you misinterpreted incorrectly

the premise of this thread is agenda driven and dumb as hell, why wouldn't you count finals losses and since when did FMVP imply that the other player "carried" the other. Bird and Curry weren't "carried"

[Showtime2001]

Yep, would have been huge for his legacy

By OP's logic LeBron would have been carried that finals.

[coin24]

This thread is proof the only pus.sy OP has seen is the fat hairy one he slithered out of

[Marchesk]

Had all the awards existed in his era, Russell would have roughly had a resume of 5 MVP's, 7 Finals MVP's, and 11 DPOY

The only thing that keeps Russell from being GOAT is scoring. Not that he needed to score 30 a game, but it's hard to put him over MJ when Jordan had such a big impact on both sides.

[SouBeachTalents]

the premise of this thread is agenda driven and dumb as hell, why wouldn't you count finals losses and since when did FMVP imply that the other player "carried" the other. Bird and Curry weren't "carried"

By OP's logic LeBron would have been carried that finals.

The term carried in general is stupid, unless it applies to an epic run like '94 Hakeem or '03 Duncan. Kobe obviously wasn't "carried", especially so in '01 & '02.

[LongLiveTheKing]

It's general consensus, outside of Kobe stans, that Kobe got carried by Shaq.