Rumsfeld says a "trained ape" could do better diplomacy

[russwest0]

inb4 liberals cry racism
conservatives fight back with other shit

wash, rinse, repeat

AMERICA!

[Lakers Legend#32]

A not so silent racial dog whistle to the Republican base.

[Lakers Legend#32]

And the Bush administration did an excellent job.

[MightyWhitey]

The right also thinks Hussein was always our enemy too.

Frenemies are part and parcel of real American policy. Once America has no more use for you there will be a changing of the guard. What's so wrong with that? When you're number one and can create your own options like this the world and liberals will hate you but real Americans won't.

[MightyWhitey]

inb4 liberals cry racism
conservatives fight back with other shit

wash, rinse, repeat

AMERICA!

Another useless post. 4000 useless posts of nothing. Read Galatians and go away.

[bagelred]

Is Rumsfeld making these statements from prison, like he should be?

[MightyWhitey]

Is Rumsfeld making these statements from prison, like he should be?

Why should he be in prison?

[MavsSuperFan]

Didn't the Bush administration fail at securing a status of forces agreement with Iraq?

Talk about the pot calling the kettle black

[mr.big35]

Another useless post. 4000 useless posts of nothing. Read Galatians and go away.

he is right mighty whitey

[KevinNYC]

I think Rummy was one of the worst cabinet members of any presidency. Definitely gave Bush a bad name shortly after 9/11 and after the war with his pompous rhetoric. For as much flack as Bush takes, the rest of his cabinet was pretty damn good.

Rumsfeld was brought in by Cheney to counter Colin Powell's influence. The two guys under Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz and Feith were also disasters.

I don't see how can you view Bush's reputation independently of Rumsfeld. Rumsfeld was a Republican rock star in 2002 and 2003 and Bush agreed with his rhetoric. Bush allowed Rumsfeld to act the way he did, big on bluster and terrible on execution. Bush was so into him that Rumsfeld would even go against decisions Bush had made, but he never paid a price for it and that is on Bush. Andrew Card urged Bush to fire Rumsfeld after the 2004 elections, after it clear most of what he said didn't pan out, but Bush refused and we were stuck with two more years of his crappy leadership at the Pentagon. Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld tended to be on the same side of the issue most of the time. They also tended to be fantastically optimistic about the Iraq War and wouldn't when they were wrong and wouldn't change their policy until years later. Bush basically didn't get a realistic cabinet until well into his second term.


We should be hearing even more about this soon, since Erroll Morris's documentary on Rumsfeld, The Known Unknown, just premiered.

[KevinNYC]