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Old 01-30-2013, 08:28 AM   #1
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Default Why Is Brian Colangelo Still the GM for Toronto?

The guy is f.ucking terrible.

-Drafts Bargnani #1
-Raped by Riley in Jermaine O'Neal trade
-Terrance Ross over Andre Drummond. Ross isn't bad, but Drummond is a monster
-Gave Landry Fields a desperation contract in a futile attempt to sign Nash
-Overpaid Demar Derozen
-50 Million for Hedo Turkoglu
-Giving Bargnani 50 million dollar extension
-Overpaying Calderon
-Lowry trade was very questionable. Lottery teams shouldn't be 1st rounders imo.
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Old 01-30-2013, 09:49 AM   #2
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Default Re: Why Is Brian Colangelo Still the GM for Toronto?

Because Maple leafs Sports Entertainment is a buisness. Owned by a corporation, not a guy like Mark Cuban.

As long as they sell out that stadium, and make money, they dont care what kind of product they put on the floor.

It's sad, but thats the way it is.

Look at the Toronto Maple Leafs. Over the last decade, probably one of the worst franchises in hockey....but the most profitable and valueable.
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Old 01-30-2013, 12:45 PM   #3
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Default Re: Why Is Brian Colangelo Still the GM for Toronto?

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Because Maple leafs Sports Entertainment is a buisness. Owned by a corporation, not a guy like Mark Cuban.

As long as they sell out that stadium, and make money, they dont care what kind of product they put on the floor.

It's sad, but thats the way it is.

Look at the Toronto Maple Leafs. Over the last decade, probably one of the worst franchises in hockey....but the most profitable and valueable.

this guy is right in every aspect except for the fact that until 2011/2012 the majority of owners of MLSE (Maple Leafs Sports Entertainment) was the Ontario Teachers Pension Plan (OTPP). That meant the financial success of the team was directly correlated to the futures financial security of its majority owners who are not a bunch of millionaires but TEACHERS!

They only cared about making money and the Raptors have been very successful doing so with such a crappy product on the floor. Any team that has been remotely close to getting to playoffs sells out, so it didnt make sense for them to take on big contracts or whatever because the seats were already full. Also because of the OTPP basically being the voice of the baord of directors for so long, it made it tough for the raptors to acquire players that might have been a risk. Instead we committed ourselves to SAFE and MEDIOCRE players for the last 10 years.

When the OTPP was bought out by Rogers and Bell (the two major telecomm companies in Canada) we were SUPPOSED to see a new commitment to winning by any means but Colangelo has operated business as usually. The status quo remains and if the Raptors make the playoffs this year he'll be extended for sure and we'll be royally screwed.

Bargnani should have been dealt 2 years ago before everyone knew he was a piece of trash and now no one wants to take his contract and we'll probably get next to nothing for him when we do trade him.

The Landry Fields thing was a strategy that was supposed to get us Steve Nash but signing him to a offer sheet he couldnt be traded to PHX and we'd get the inside track on Nash instead of NYK. Too bad Nash took a slight pay cut, but why are we going after an over the hill player anyways at 35 mil? TO MAKE MONEY AND KEEP THE BUTTS IN THE SEATS.

Welcome to Raptor land, expect nothing less than utter disappointment, expect nothing more than mediocrity and you'll be fine.

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Old 01-30-2013, 12:47 PM   #4
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Default Re: Why Is Brian Colangelo Still the GM for Toronto?

So Toronto is like a wanna be LA of sports?
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Old 01-30-2013, 12:51 PM   #5
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Default Re: Why Is Brian Colangelo Still the GM for Toronto?

Because they sell out as long as the team is even remotely close to average. If we really want to win we need to tank for several years and draft well - like the thunder. We should tank for Wiggins. He'd actually probably stay in TO.
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Old 01-30-2013, 12:51 PM   #6
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Default Re: Why Is Brian Colangelo Still the GM for Toronto?

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So Toronto is like a wanna be LA of sports?
LA teams actually win.
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Old 01-30-2013, 01:43 PM   #7
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Default Re: Why Is Brian Colangelo Still the GM for Toronto?

Rogers/Bell owned MLSE looks to be more serious in winning than Teachers-owned one since winning does increase TV revenue, and they seems to do that with two big shake-ups in two other MLSE teams. Leafs fired Brian Burke so they can have more power to do potential big roster moves i.e. Roberto Luongo to win. TFC hired a proven GM Kevin Payne who clearly knows his stuffs more than Tom Anselmi to reconstruct the team's infrastructure and have a better chance to win.

I believe MLSE will not resign BC back at the end of the season.
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Old 01-30-2013, 01:50 PM   #8
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Default Re: Why Is Brian Colangelo Still the GM for Toronto?

because he is an overrated f*gg*t who tricked his employers
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Old 01-30-2013, 02:03 PM   #9
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Default Re: Why Is Brian Colangelo Still the GM for Toronto?

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The guy is f.ucking terrible.

-Drafts Bargnani #1
-Raped by Riley in Jermaine O'Neal trade
-Terrance Ross over Andre Drummond. Ross isn't bad, but Drummond is a monster
-Gave Landry Fields a desperation contract in a futile attempt to sign Nash
-Overpaid Demar Derozen
-50 Million for Hedo Turkoglu
-Giving Bargnani 50 million dollar extension
-Overpaying Calderon
-Lowry trade was very questionable. Lottery teams shouldn't be 1st rounders imo.

He could have easily fixed the season if the Raptors had drafted Drummond, hired MDA as head coach, and signed Jeremy Lin to run the point.

The Raptors wouldn't be a championship team, but they would be competitive and fun to watch.

But yea, BC has to go.
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Old 01-30-2013, 02:08 PM   #10
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Default Re: Why Is Brian Colangelo Still the GM for Toronto?

'cuz he's got the same last name as his father. The similarities end there...unfortunately for us.
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Old 01-30-2013, 03:44 PM   #11
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Default Re: Why Is Brian Colangelo Still the GM for Toronto?

Clyde, Burgz, red1, and kaiteng pretty much summed up what I was going to say. It's not just Colangelo and the rest of the management that is garbage, but the ownership looks at making money over winning.

I'm not saying that's a bad thing in terms of business, but winning and making money at the same time is WAY better for business. I don't understand how this is a hard concept.

It's the fans that get cheated in the end.
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Old 01-30-2013, 03:54 PM   #12
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Default Re: Why Is Brian Colangelo Still the GM for Toronto?

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'cuz he's got the same last name as his father. The similarities end there...unfortunately for us.

This too...his father was a great basketball executive, and a man who help bring basketball and baseball to Phoenix (the latter, of course, won a championship by its fourth season). Yeah, Jerry didn't win a NBA championship, due in-part to running into just better teams '76 and '93, but he built one of the most successful and winningest franchises in NBA history (the Suns have the fourth-best win percentage among NBA franchises).

Bryan and Jim Buss (at least so far) have proved just because Daddy was successful don't mean that they'll be too.
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Old 01-30-2013, 03:55 PM   #13
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Default Re: Why Is Brian Colangelo Still the GM for Toronto?

the sad thing is if we didn't have MLSE owning the raps they might have relocated already. they are business savvy and know how to run a business and make money and for that we can't really complain

it's a harsh reality.
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Old 01-30-2013, 04:03 PM   #14
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Default Re: Why Is Brian Colangelo Still the GM for Toronto?

Appreciate the replies

I just never understood why they kept this guy around
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