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Old 09-25-2009, 08:09 PM   #1
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This should make Franchize and a few others happy...I dont want him starting personally but it doesnt matter this season is going to sh!t anyway.

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Rafer Alston, who quickly became a third-string backup behind Devin Harris and Keyon Dooling after being traded by the Magic, would like to be moved to the Heat or Knicks.
It didn't take long for Skip to do an about face on the "Whatever minutes I receive will be fine with me" schtick and demand a trade. Alston is in a contract year and needs to play in order to get that one last contract before retiring. It will be interesting to see if the Nets will be able to move him. But either way, don't expect to see him doing much for the Nets this season.

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Old 09-26-2009, 04:42 PM   #2
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makes all the sense in the world for the Heat to get him.He's a solid pg, they need a solid pg,he has history with alot of those guys.I would like him here too but it would benefit him and the Heat better.For the record,i never said he was a great pg but if you have Rafer Alston as you pg you dont HAVE to go out and get one if you dont want to or you cant afford one.If you have Duhon as your pg you have a PG PROBLEM and need to address the issue immediately.i dont think any team skip was on felt they were in dire need of a change at the pg position.We,however,CANNOT go further without addressing it.Getting skip isnt a cure all by any means but if we have him,we can focus on more pressing matters like getting LBJ,Wade,Bosh or Amare.N that is very beneficial given the lack of pg's in next summer's FA pool and the fact that we have no draft pick.
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Style of Play of Point Guards



By Carlos Chalhoub
People don't agree on what constitutes a PG. Some want the PG to constantly attack the defense and score. Others want the PG to simply create for his teammates and take the shots that the defense affords him. There is no easy answer.
What most people agree on is that the Point Guard is the most important player on the floor. He has the ball in his hands the most and by his actions and decisions can influence what happens with the other 4 teammates and the reaction of the defense. The best point guards make the best decision for their team given their own abilities and those of their teammates. For example, since Jose Calderon is the 4th most efficient shooter in the NBA (0.649 TS%), it’s likely that the best decision for the team is for him to shoot. But that is not the case, since his Usage Rate is 25th best among starting PGs.
How can we characterize style of play of Point Guards?
I have adapted the following classification (http://rethinkbball.blogspot.com/2008/08/visualizing-point-guard-playing-styles.html) to divide the current starting Point Guards crop in the NBA into 4 prototypes:
Initiator
Distributor
Pure Facilitator
Scorer
To separate them, I started first by calculating the average stats for a starting PG in the NBA:
Average Assist Ratio: 30.25
Average Usage Rate: 20.68
Average PPR (Pure Point Rating, based on assists and turnovers): 5.30
First, let's look at the different stats for the 30 starting Point Guards in the NBA:
Assist Ratio:
Chris Paul - 54.1
Deron Williams - 46.6
Steve Nash - 42.3
Jose Calderon - 40.5
Rajon Rondo - 39.3
Baron Davis - 38.7
Tony Parker - 38.6
Jason Kidd - 33.6
Devin Harris - 33.4
Jameer Nelson - 31.3
Raymond Felton - 30.4
Chauncey Billups - 30.2
Chris Duhon - 30.2
Luke Ridnour - 29.2
Derrick Rose - 29.1
Rodney Stuckey - 29
Andre Miller - 28.9
Mike Bibby - 27
Russell Westbrook - 26.5
Sebastian Telfair - 26.3
Rafer Alston - 25.8
Steve Blake - 25.3
Beno Udrih - 25
Mario Chalmers - 22.8
Maurice Williams - 21
Mike Conley - 20.7
Jarrett Jack - 19.2
Mike James - 19.2
Derek Fisher - 17.6
Monta Ellis - 17.5
Usage Rate:
Tony Parker - 30.7
Devin Harris - 28.4
Monta Ellis - 26.7
Baron Davis - 26.3
Chris Paul - 26.3
Russell Westbrook - 24.9
Deron Williams - 24.1
Rodney Stuckey - 23.8
Maurice Williams - 23.7
Jameer Nelson - 23.2
Derrick Rose - 23.0
Chauncey Billups - 22.9
Andre Miller - 21.4
Mike Bibby - 21.2
Steve Nash - 20.2
Raymond Felton - 21.1
Rafer Alston - 19.3
Beno Udrih - 19.2
Sebastian Telfair - 19.0
Mike James - 18.8
Rajon Rondo - 18.3
Luke Ridnour - 18.2
Steve Blake - 17.8
Jarret Jack - 17.5
Jose Calderon - 16.8
Mike Conley - 16.2
Mario Chalmers - 16.1
Derek Fisher - 15.5
Chris Duhon - 15.2
Jason Kidd - 13.8
PPR:
Chris Paul - 11.7
Jose Calderon - 10.7
Deron Williams - 9.7
Jason Kidd - 8.7
Rajon Rondo - 8.4
Steve Nash - 7.4
Baron Davis - 7.4
Chris Duhon - 6.3
Chauncey Billups - 6.2
Luke Ridnour - 5.8
Mike Bibby - 5.6
Tony Parker - 5.5
Steve Blake - 5.2
Jameer Nelson - 5.1
Rafer Alston - 4.9
Andre Miller - 4.8
Derek Fisher - 4.7
Raymond Felton - 4.3
Derrick Rose - 4.2
Devin Harris - 4.1
Rodney Stuckey - 3.9
Sebastian Telfair - 3.6
Mario Chalmers - 3.4
Mike Conley - 2.9
Beno Udrih - 2.1
Jarrett Jack - 1.4
Maurice Williams - 1.0
Russell Westbrook - 0.7
Monta Ellis - 0.0
Mike James - -0.8
Now, we can look at the different styles:
Initiator: the basic function of any point guard – comes down the court and gets the team into the offense. They are likely players who just get the job done without taking risks. This type of point guard probably has an average to below average usage rate, average assist ratio, and average to below-average pure point rating.
The following PGs fall under this category:
Rafer Alston, Beno Udrih, Sebastian Telfair, Mike James, Steve Blake, Jarrett Jack, Mike Conley, Mario Chalmers, Derek Fisher, Luke Ridnour, Mike Bibby
Distributor: These are the players who have the court vision and ability to find players in scoring position and get them the ball to pick up the assist. They might take a few more risks than an initiator, but also limit egregious mistakes. This type of point guard is characterized by a below average usage rate, an above average assist ratio, and an above average pure point rating.
The following PGs fall under this category:
Steve Nash, Jose Calderon, Rajon Rondo, Jason Kidd, Chris Duhon
Pure Facilitator: These are the players who will make the highlight film passes that make you think they have “eyes in the back of their heads”. They take considerably more risks and might have more turnovers, but also have the ability to break down a defense and create scoring opportunities by forcing the defense to shift. This type of point guard is characterized by an above average usage rate, an above average assist ratio, and above average pure point rating.
The following PGs fall under this category:
Chris Paul, Deron Williams, Baron Davis, Tony Parker, Chauncey Billups, Jameer Nelson
Scorer: These are point guards who can break down a defense and score for themselves more effectively than the pure facilitator. They have a scorer’s mindset, but also have the skill to initiate or distribute. These types are characterized by at or above average usage rates, below average assist ratios, and at or below average pure point ratings.
The following PGs fall under this category:
Andre Miller, Derrick Rose, Rodney Stuckey, Maurice Williams, Russell Westbrook, Monta Ellis, Devin Harris, Raymond Felton






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Old 09-27-2009, 10:27 AM   #4
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makes all the sense in the world for the Heat to get him.He's a solid pg, they need a solid pg,he has history with alot of those guys.I would like him here too but it would benefit him and the Heat better.For the record,i never said he was a great pg but if you have Rafer Alston as you pg you dont HAVE to go out and get one if you dont want to or you cant afford one.If you have Duhon as your pg you have a PG PROBLEM and need to address the issue immediately.i dont think any team skip was on felt they were in dire need of a change at the pg position.We,however,CANNOT go further without addressing it.Getting skip isnt a cure all by any means but if we have him,we can focus on more pressing matters like getting LBJ,Wade,Bosh or Amare.N that is very beneficial given the lack of pg's in next summer's FA pool and the fact that we have no draft pick.

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