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    Quote Originally Posted by Overdrive
    No, Putin doesn't give a shit about neonazis in the Ukraine, he doesn't give a damn about Kiev. He wants the crim and parts of Ukraine east of the Dnieper as it's mostly russians there and alot of ressources. The coup is just an excuse to get there.
    No matter what you think his motives and reasoning for doing things are-here are three more indisputable facts.

    Putin is against the Nazis taking control of the Ukraine government, and sending in troops to ensure this doesn't happen.

    Putin is nominated for the Nobel Prize for Peace.

    The USA has given $5 billion to fund a Nazi coup.

    These are three facts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nick Young
    No one's saying Putin is good. Im not arguing good vs evil here. Im not a philosopher and I dont view the world in black and white.

    Putin is nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize-FACT

    Interpret that how you will
    This whole ****ing thread is about seeing the world in black and white. It's hilarious to see you throwing out all context and distorting the nature of the opposition in Ukraine to set up your stupid "When did you stop beating your wife?" moral posturing and then claiming you don't view the world in black and white

    Using your own argument you are on the side of dictators shooting protestors through the neck. You are on the side of military agressors.

    You have such a dumb way of arguing. Do you know how someone gets Nominated for a Noble? It's not by the Noble Committee. Fact.

    Some member of the Russian government who wanted to kiss Putin's ass could have nominated him or any history professor. Over 270 people are nominated for the Peace Prize this year. Troll or vanity nominations have been a fact for years, it makes for a good press release. The Noble Committee then vets this big list to come up with the eligible nominees.

    [QUOTE]A nomination for the Nobel Peace Prize may be submitted by any person who meets the nomination criteria. A letter of invitation to submit is not required. The names of the nominees and other information about the nominations cannot be revealed until 50 years later.
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    The Norwegian Nobel Committee is responsible for selecting the Nobel Peace Prize Laureates. A nomination for the Nobel Peace Prize may be submitted by any persons who are qualified to nominate.

    Qualified Nominators
    According to the statutes of the Nobel Foundation, a nomination is considered valid if it is submitted by a person who falls within one of the following categories:

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    Default Re: Why is the USA supporting Ukrainian Nazis?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nick Young
    No matter what you think his motives and reasoning for doing things are-here are three more indisputable facts.

    Putin is against the Nazis taking control of the Ukraine government, and sending in troops to ensure this doesn't happen.

    Putin is nominated for the Nobel Prize for Peace.

    The USA has given $5 billion to fund a Nazi coup.

    These are three facts.
    That's like people saying Hitler built the autobahn. wtf really. The motives are important for judging the facts, because they give an outlook on the consequences of those facts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Overdrive
    That's like people saying Hitler built the autobahn. wtf really. The motives are important for judging the facts, because they give an outlook on the consequences of those facts.
    Hitler built the Autobahn. Fact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KevinNYC
    This whole ****ing thread is about seeing the world in black and white. It's hilarious to see you throwing out all context and distorting the nature of the opposition in Ukraine to set up your stupid "When did you stop beating your wife?" moral posturing and then claiming you don't view the world in black and white

    Using your own argument you are on the side of dictators shooting protestors through the neck. You are on the side of military agressors.

    You have such a dumb way of arguing. Do you know how someone gets Nominated for a Noble? It's not by the Noble Committee. Fact.

    Some member of the Russian government who wanted to kiss Putin's ass could have nominated him or any history professor. Over 270 people are nominated for the Peace Prize this year. Troll or vanity nominations have been a fact for years, it makes for a good press release. The Noble Committee then vets this big list to come up with the eligible nominees.



    Put this way. Putin is not getting on the red carpet yet. Somebody is just running a "For Your Consideration" Oscar campaign. It didn't work for this documentary.
    U mad that the freedom loving peaceful protesters you been rooting for are actually neo-Nazis doe?

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    10. Mr. Putin says: The Rada is under the influence of extremists or terrorists.

    The Facts: The Rada is the most representative institution in Ukraine. Recent legislation has passed with large majorities, including from representatives of eastern Ukraine. Far-right wing ultranationalist groups, some of which were involved in open clashes with security forces during the EuroMaidan protests, are not represented in the Rada. There is no indication that the Ukrainian government would pursue discriminatory policies; on the contrary, they have publicly stated exactly the opposite.

    is guess Nick has been reading RT news lately

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    What's wrong with being a nazi?

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    Quote Originally Posted by East_Stone_Ya
    is guess Nick has been reading RT news lately
    Nope.

    Sorry that your beloved freedom fighters you've been supporting are actually nazis.

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