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Old 06-16-2018, 09:29 AM   #16
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PARIS (Reuters) - French special forces are present on the ground in Yemen with forces from the United Arab Emirates, French newspaper Le Figaro reported on Saturday, citing two military sources.

The newspaper gave no further information about their activities. The Defence Ministry was not immediately available for comment, but its usual policy is not to comment on special forces’ operations.

A French parliamentary source recently told Reuters French special forces were in Yemen.

Forces from an Arab alliance entered the airport in Yemen’s main port city on Saturday, in the biggest battle of the coalition’s war against the Iran-aligned Houthi movement.

The French Defence Ministry said on Friday that France was studying the possibility of carrying out a mine-sweeping operation to provide access to the port of Hodeidah once the coalition had wrapped up its military operations.

The ministry stressed that France at this stage had no military operations in the Hodeidah region and was not part of the Saudi-led coalition.

France, along with the United States and Britain, backs the Arab coalition in the Yemen conflict and provides weapons to both Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates.


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Old 06-16-2018, 03:05 PM   #17
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This entire situation is perhaps the best example of how any of the US' "world policing" and "humanitarian efforts" are actually thinly-veiled strategic power plays to keep our hands in every cookie jar. Lowering our standing and goodwill in the world, literally backing genocide and almost three quarters of dictatorships in the world.

"Iran is the number one sponsor of state terror, we swear! Saudi Arabia is beyond reproach, let's bring him to the White House and talk about how much they'll pay us for all these weapons!"
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Old 06-16-2018, 05:40 PM   #18
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This entire situation is perhaps the best example of how any of the US' "world policing" and "humanitarian efforts" are actually thinly-veiled strategic power plays to keep our hands in every cookie jar. Lowering our standing and goodwill in the world, literally backing genocide and almost three quarters of dictatorships in the world.

"Iran is the number one sponsor of state terror, we swear! Saudi Arabia is beyond reproach, let's bring him to the White House and talk about how much they'll pay us for all these weapons!"
Well, the United States’ #1 foreign policy is that no single country dominates any region. Whether it’s Iran in the Middle East, Russia in Eastern Europe/Eurasia or China in south east Asia. If you prevent any country from becoming a dominant regional power, you prevent them from becoming a world power like the United States.
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Well, the United States’ #1 foreign policy is that no single country dominates any region. Whether it’s Iran in the Middle East, Russia in Eastern Europe/Eurasia or China in south east Asia. If you prevent any country from becoming a dominant regional power, you prevent them from becoming a world power like the United States.

No doubt. In a vacuum, I don't care about being the sole superpower, though I realize scaling back could create an opening for someone else to step up. That does complicate things, and arguably lends itself to the idea that we should be the only straw the stirs the drink.

I get the concept that being heavy on interventions and putting our hands in cookie jars helps to perpetuate our "empire", but I'm not sold that it's the only (or even best) way to sustain our leadership role. Is the US objectively more trustworthy compared to leaving more power in the hands of even less humanitarianism-focused countries? Yes. We probably agree there. I just don't buy that that's one of our top priorities either.

Oftentimes the result of our interventions are a net negative. Not in every case, but the financial incentive of perpetual war is impossible to deny. Our leaders tend to err on the side of more war in any case where it's even debatable. Considering that a plurality of people view us as the top threat to world peace, I do think being involved in 8 interventions atm (and counting) is not a good thing.

A real debate can be had about whether or not the pros of our "world policemen" role actually net balance out the cons, but it would be nice if we practiced some of what we preached when it comes to human rights issues. Higher standards in terms of who we choose to back. Our approach is Machiavellian and hypocritical, to be kind.
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Old 06-16-2018, 09:40 PM   #20
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Well, the United States’ #1 foreign policy is that no single country dominates any region. Whether it’s Iran in the Middle East, Russia in Eastern Europe/Eurasia or China in south east Asia. If you prevent any country from becoming a dominant regional power, you prevent them from becoming a world power like the United States.


Too bad theyre failing miserably at that. China owns the world.
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Too bad theyre failing miserably at that. China owns the world.
The United States has like 7 military bases on China’s border. The United States has more allies in China’s own region than China does.

If the United States ever managed to flip Russia and North Korea into being American allies, China would be a completely isolated country in its own region.
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Old 06-16-2018, 11:32 PM   #22
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The United States has like 7 military bases on China’s border. The United States has more allies in China’s own region than China does.

If the United States ever managed to flip Russia and North Korea into being American allies, China would be a completely isolated country in its own region.

A US ally doesn't mean a Chinese rival. China has shown that it can expand its prosperity without military aggression, kind of like how the US became an economic superpower. In a sense, the US is more isolationist than China when it comes to foreign policy and trade. It's actually a really bad sign if the US can only be dominant through military aggression.
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