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Old 11-15-2015, 02:15 PM   #151
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Ainge said he understood that his rookies would need crash-course mentoring and seasoning before making an impact. While there may be disappointment among Celtics fans that three draft picks played Saturday night in Canton, there weren’t high expectations that the trio would crack the rotation, especially with the team’s depth. “Right now, two guys that wouldn’t be in uniform [Young and Mickey], instead of sitting in a hotel room in Oklahoma City will be playing in a game in Canton, Ohio,” Ainge said. “That’s better for their development.”
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I would think Lyles would be better off playing a big role in big minutes in Idaho than a few minutes of setting screens in the NBA and the Jazz would certainly be better short term anyway.
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So here’s the problem as other teams see it: Denver has too much of an advantage in back-to-back games when the Nuggets are the second leg and said team is coming to play them from anywhere on the West Coast. “When you come west to Denver, when going from Portland or Sacramento, Denver has home-court advantage,” said Milwaukee Bucks coach Jason Kidd, who has made that trek a number of times as a player and coach. He turned to the questioner and grinned. “Just … it is what it is,” Kidd said. “They have the advantage.”
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The game against the Nuggets is that night. Throw in altitude and a running Nuggets team … and you can see why opponents would want it eradicated. “I didn’t like it when I had to come here,” said first-year Nuggets coach Michael Malone. “But I love it now.” But not for long. The NBA already has taken action to reduce that advantage through altered scheduling such as making Denver the first stop coming from the east or putting a day off between the games for teams coming from the west. “It’s been a point of contention to where they’ve cut it down,” Malone said.
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The Jazz don't have a similar advantage?
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Old 11-16-2015, 09:30 AM   #153
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Rudy Gobert: Innocent lives being taken on both sides…for reasons that we don’t know, they are enjoying their chest game…but at the end we all lose.
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wtf are u talking about? Both sides??? Islamic terrorism is a sickness of pure hatred. They attack unprovoked / Rudy Gobert: You think 3 years old kids are terrorists? Open your eyes and not only your CNN app
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Got to love the guy!

Looked like the time off did him good. Now if only they can go the rest of the year without anyone missing a game they might have a chance of doing something!
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With all of the Boston Celtics' draft picks, Danny Ainge is more liberally using the D-League for players to get experience.


“What I don’t want to have happen when we draft a player is for my coaching staff to have such a burden of trying to win, trying to make the playoffs, trying to win games and making judgments on their young players who can’t help them win,” Ainge said.


“We’ve seen many, many franchises give up on players because winning was a precedent over developing players.”


With potentially three more first round picks coming to Boston next summer, the Celtics want to establish a foundation in which their younger players can develop without the pressure of having to perform.
Idaho played yesterday. Why not send Lyles or Pleiss down there instead of putting them on the bench in a suit?
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Old 11-16-2015, 10:05 AM   #155
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4.0 — Amount per-100-possessions by which the Jazz have been outscored this season without Rudy Gobert in the game — the only Jazz player with a negative figure here. While Derrick Favors has been absolutely fantastic and the team’s best overall player so far, Gobert seems to still be having the largest early effect on the scoreboard.


You wouldn't know it to listen to the announcers. Seems pretty obvious to anyone watching though. Atlanta was trying to get Rudy away from the basket thinking they could could take advantage of him in the pick and roll. He's their best perimeter defender too! Bring it on all year long.


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40.6 — Another per-100 rating, this time the positive differential for Utah’s three-wing lineup of Hayward, Hood and Burks when they play specifically with Utah’s starting frontcourt of Gobert and Favors. This unit still needs many more minutes for this to be a concrete trend, but they should absolutely get those minutes in short order. Of 85 lineups league-wide that have logged over 25 minutes together, just three have outscored their opponents by more.


As I said before the year started I'd put those 5 up against anyone. They need to be on the floor together as much as possible.



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37.5 — Percent of Jazz misses that a Jazz player rebounded while Rudy Gobert and Derrick Favors shared the court Sunday.


.448 — Per-possession scoring rate1 for the Jazz on plays following baseline out of bounds plays, per Synergy Sports. Their figure for sideline out of bounds plays isn’t much better, at a still-atrocious .492 PPP. The Jazz were below average in both these categories last year as well, but not to nearly this degree — Snyder needs to quickly get to work devising something a bit more creative for his inbound sets, which nearly cost the Jazz a win against the Hawks.
Jerry may have some ideas. Wasn't that considered a strong suit with him? They're already fouling like a Jerry led team.


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0 — Minutes for Trey Lyles tonight, his first goose egg of the year. Jeff Withey has clearly surpassed him for fourth big minutes when the Jazz even have need for such a thing, and if that keeps up, it could behoove the Jazz to get Lyles some time in Idaho to develop at game speed.


Do you think it will actually happen though? Not sure why htthey have a D-league team myself. Withey wasn't that good in this one but he clearly surpassed him in the pre-season too so I wouldn't expect it to stick. They want Lyles out there even if it means losses it seems.

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“I think sometimes it’s just a placebo effect, where guys feel that there’s more out there that we can help them with — it lets them help themselves.”


-Quin Snyder postgame, speaking about adjustments from shootaround to Jazz play-by-play announcer Craig Bolerjack on Root Sports. Remember that stuff above about how fantastic a teacher Snyder is for these guys? Rinse, repeat.
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The usual suspects: Won’t we be more surprised when Derrick Favors doesn’t go for something in the neighborhood of 18-24 points, 9-13 boards and a couple blocks or steals? The man is just a machine so far this year, once again lifting the team on his back in the second half and abusing former teammate Paul Millsap down low. Fav was again joined by Alec Burks in the plus column for the Jazz, and while Trey Burke only saw 23 minutes in this one, he continued to be lethal from deep and provide a scoring injection off the bench. Rodney Hood returned from injury to get in on the action as well, finally locating his stroke from beyond the arc and playing a well-rounded game. Gobert was… well, Gobert.
They need to run pick and roll with Hood/Burks and Favors/Gobert until Hayward shows he's as reliable. I feel real good anytime Burks has the ball and Hood inside the arc is unstoppable as well.

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On the other end of the spectrum, Gordon Hayward once again struggled after a couple good games. We’ve been over this every which way, and while no one means to pile on Gordon, it’s just because of how important he is to the team. Some of it continues to be the way teams are loading up against Hayward and daring the Jazz to beat them elsewhere, but it’s more than that also. He’s struggling badly on his open looks, especially from 3, where he now checks in at an ugly 27 percent on the year2. As always, we’re nowhere close to panic time. But Gordon has seemed stuck in the mud for long stretches this year, and while the team has weathered that storm, continuing to do so could prove very difficult.
He's always been streaky. They have other guys. It will come to Maxi G at some point.



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More halftime adjustments:



I’ve been picking nits with Snyder’s game plan all year3, but can rarely do so for his halftime adjustments. They’ve consistently been spot-on throughout the season, and Sunday was no exception. Take a look at this Kyle Korver jumper from the first half, and pay particular attention to where Rudy Gobert (guarding the screener) is located:


See how Gobert was too far back to contest Korver’s shot? That was frequently the case for both Rudy and Favors early on Sunday, and the Hawks exploited it on more than one occasion. Utah’s bigs are at their best near the basket and are naturally inclined to stay as close to it as possible, but good shooting teams like the Hawks will play on that sort of thing. They repeatedly brought Korver or another shooter around the corner on Gobert or Favors, daring them to leave their comfort zone, successfully so early on.
That changed in the second half, minus one or two small lapses. Snyder clearly instructed his guys to step up on these sets, and where knockdown shooters like Korver were initially getting high-percentage looks in the first, they were being forced to pass out in the second. Combine that with the fact that Horford, most often the roll-man in these sets, was off with his own J early and therefore hesitant on pick-and-pops (until a couple late-game 3s), and the Jazz ground Atlanta’s offense to a halt on several occasions simply by making this singular adjustment. If anyone ever asks you how much impact a coach can really have on a game, show them this note.


The Jazz, chronically over-helping:



The Jazz are a bit too eager to help on defense at times. This is a note I’ve made before, but let’s illustrate it a bit — keep a close eye on Favors as the following play unfolds:


Favors is initially positioned inside the paint as a possible helper for a pick-and-roll taking place at the top of the key — nothing wrong with that. But as the play unfolds he starts ball-watching, and this is where he gets hurt. As the two-man action dies and Horford is essentially driving one-on-one with Gobert near the rim, Favors remains stationary in an attempt to help. Here’s the thing, though: Rudy doesn’t need any help there, and certainly not the type that leaves you 20 feet from a legitimate 3-point shooter. Horford had barely been able to hit the rim on his isolations against Gobert to that point in the game, and even if that weren’t the case, how many guys are there in the whole league who you don’t trust Gobert against by himself near the rim?
0. If anything a help defender will get in the way or pick up a stupid foul. Better off going at the open guy or getting ready for a rebound. Now if Rudy is the help it may be a different story all together.
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These are split-second decisions, and it’s tempting to not be so hard on them. But they can make the difference between winning and losing, plain and simple. This has been an all-too-common theme for the Jazz this year (and last), with apologies to Derrick for using him as the guinea pig — it’s actually been the wings who are the most frequent transgressors. Guys like Gobert and Favors don’t need help down low nearly as often as the Jazz have been giving it, and they’ve had issues with over-exuberance helping on shooters outside as well. The energy is great, as is the intent, but Snyder will have to work on dialing things back to just the right level. It’s no easy balance, and will take time.


Neto not so neato:

It pains one to say it given his likable persona and blue-collar style on the floor, but Raul Neto is becoming an offensive liability in short order. He’s down below 30 percent shooting on the year after a hot start, and has hit just 11 percent of his 3s in his last five games. It’s not his individual numbers that are the real killer, though — it’s the way they affect everyone else on the court. Neto is such a minus on that end that it trickles elsewhere, allowing defenses to overload guys like Hayward and Favors without fear of being exploited. Neto continues to work hard defensively and do many of the little things well, but it’s gotten to the point where Snyder may have to consider other options to start games, especially given the numbers noted above regarding both Burke and the three-wing lineup.
Hit a jumper off the pick and roll tonight where he's been a great distributor. I said they were rushing him. Start Burks and hope Trey can continue to hit shots off the bench.
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Old 11-16-2015, 10:16 AM   #156
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• Derrick Favors from the free throw for the biggest shot of the night. He also dominated Millsap in the post.


and Millsap dominated him at the other end.


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On defense he got switched a ton of times and was able to control the situation. He is having a monster season. The free throw line jumper is vital for the teams success and he is taking it with confidence and making it with regularity.


It thought he shot a lot better last year. Seems pretty inconsistent so far.


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At some point teams will close and then he swings through and drives to the basket. In addition, his passing on the short role has been terrific. Favors skill development over the past two years is remarkable.
Amazing what happens when a guy actually gets in the gym and puts in work for a change. See Trey.



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• The coaches made some nice adjustments at halftime. The Jazz were getting trapped on every pick and roll and then the Hawks would then jump the next pass forcing the only pass to be over the top of the defense which was leading to turnovers. 14 in the first half . In the second half they slipped the pick man so it made it harder for the Hawks to trap and the Jazz only had 6 turnovers in the entire half.



• Rudy Gobert makes a world of difference. He alters how every thing happens on the floor and he is getting better as a roll man when teams leave him. He made some plays around the basket tonight. First double double of the year for Rudy.
Was easier against their short front line but I think he can be a big factor on offense. Just needs more confidence.


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• Hawks ran a nice play to get Horford the corner 3 and then they got a great look to win it but Millsap just missed. The back pick came on Derrick and Rudy did the right thing to switch on millsap but somehow he got spun around and Millsap was wide open. Paul just missed and the Jazz win.


• Trey Burkes decision making was terrific in the first half of the game. He is having a great start to the season.


• Jazz went Triple Wing for the final 9 minutes of the game and it allowed them to switch everything defensively. Jazz switched 1-4 and that took away a lot of what the Hawks wanted to accomplish. The Jazz played the triple wing a combined 14 mimutes tonight. One interesting moment was when it forced Coach Bud to take Korver of the floor because he couldn’t hide him defensively with Hood, Burks and Hayward on the floor. Hood really took it to Korver.
Need more of it. Big drop off after their top 5 guys. They have the cap space and assets where they could get a 6th guy of that caliber. Get it done!
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• Korver only got free for 1 really good look three. Korver only got 3 attempts from 3.


• Jeff Teague not playing changed what the Hawks offense was able to do.



• Rodney Hood took 9 threes. I can’t emphasize how important this is for the Jazz. High volume three point shooters are still one of the most underrated aspects of the game. JJ Reddick, Wesley Mathews, etc are incredibly important to an offense.



• Gordon is off and the first half was a big a struggle for him as I have seen in a long time but going through my Hawks notes from last year both games against the Hawks last year were struggles as well. The Hawks are not going to let Gordon be a play maker.
He's got to quit forcing it when that happens. Burks and Hood can step up.


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• 5 minutes left Jazz were up 3. Jazz shot 5 for 9 with 1 turnover. Really solid late game play.


• Nice win. Coming out of this 10 game stretch 5-5 is solid. Nothing we have seen yet should concern Jazz fans about this team. They are continuing the process and are improving
Lack of depth is a concern. The fact that the front office and staff seem to be more concerned with 5 years down the line than today is a huge concern.
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Old 11-16-2015, 10:21 AM   #157
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Jeff Withey, who has been inactive for the majority of Jazz games this year, got the nod as the last active player over Tibor Pleiss, probably because of his eight-point, seven-rebound performance Friday night in Orlando.

Probably because Snyder's secret was out and he couldn't continue to play Lyles after everyone saw that. Anyone that watched pre-season already knew.
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A former Jazz standout, Millsap is one of three Hawks who is averaging over 16 points per game. The other two, Jeff Teague and Al Horford, both are coming into this game averaging over 17 points per game. This triple threat may be too much to handle for the Jazz if Rudy Gobert and Rodney Hood are out again. Any one of these players could go off for a 30-point game easily.


Luckily it was Teague that was out. Still their best win.



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But most Utah Jazz fans have seen the Hayward that turns up his gears and gets to the basket at will.


Sounds like Burks not Maxi G.


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If they can keep him contained, the Jazz will have a much bigger chance at winning this game.

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towards the end of the game the Hawks were forced to the perimeter.

From the get go.
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It made an enormous difference because in every game teams will go through perimeter droughts, if only briefly. Tonight, that drought allowed Utah to take that 95-88 lead and it turned out to be the difference.


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Gordon Hayward's struggles are becoming increasingly obvious. Tonight, he had seven points and six rebounds, and did so in 38 minutes. The more concerning thing is Hayward playing 38 minutes and taking just nine shots. As Utah's top perimeter option, there are times he has to force the action and look for his offense, because an aggressive Hayward is good for the Jazz.
They were all over him. They have other guys that can get it done. He doesn't need to force anything. Alec would be getting 20 a game if they played him as much as Hayward and Hood is unstoppable inside the arc. Favors has been tough around the hoop.

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He knows he has to find his groove and he's not frustrated. But teams are loading up on him and he knows he has to adjust to this.

Let them keep doing it. Going to open it up for others. When he is open he needs to hit shots though.


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What it means: The Jazz are 5-5, which is probably a good record considering they've played eight of those 10 games on the road, and have played against three of the best teams in the Eastern Conference. The schedule lightens up a bit in the next two weeks in terms of circumstance. The Jazz don't face any back-to-backs in the next few weeks. But it's still a tough stretch with the Toronto Raptors, Dallas Mavericks, Oklahoma City Thunder, Los Angeles Clippers and New Orleans Pelicans in their next five games. Oh well. That's what being in the Western Conference is all about.



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Should be better than 5-5. If Withey had played. If he played his best guys more minutes.
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