Genghis Khan

[MightyWhitey]

Yep, pretty crazy if you think about it.

Before Genghis Khan: Middle East was a place full of intellectuals and some of the brightest, secular thinkers in the World

After Genghis Khan: Absolute shithole, all their research and notes destroyed, hasn't recovered since

That's where Alexander has Genghis Khan. His kingdom stretched into 3 continents.

[East_Stone_Ya]

you will find odd families in eastern europe that has mongol features

this is not because of that. It's due to the fact that Soviet Union purposely populated some territories with different nationalities

[Dresta]

This entire Genghis Khan destroyed the Arab world and science is such nonsense.

First of all, the sacking of Baghdad happened 30 years after Genghis Khan's death. That was Hellegu Khan, not Genghis.

More importantly science in the Islamic world experienced a revolution during the mid 700s and peaked during the 800s. By the time the Mongols reared their heads it's 300-400 years later. The Abbasid caliphate was on it's last legs, largely usurped by feuding tribes that didn't give a shit about science and the Abbasids had mostly stopped giving a shit too. Sure there was a nice library, but Baghdad certainly was not a thriving scientific place full of intellectuals during it's sacking.

This is very true. According to Gibbon, Hellegu built a pyramid of 100,000 heads on the ruins of Baghdad; don't even think Genghis was that dramatically vicious.

And then it's not like Muhammed hadn't earlier gone around conquering everyone offering only 'the sword/the koran/or the tribute' to his opponents, and before him the groundwork was laid by other earlier conquests (forget by whom though). In fact, Muhammed could be termed the 'GOAT Alpha male' - was an illiterate goat-herder, who managed to conquer vast areas in short spaces of time, and who laid down his own principles as eternal, so much so that they still have a huge army of followers today. All this while managing to keep 11 wives and innumerable concubines. Guy was a boss.

That's where Alexander has Genghis Khan. His kingdom stretched into 3 continents.

Alexander does have the benefit of his conquests being generally helpful to humankind, in allowing the spread and proliferation of hellenistic principles and culture that might otherwise have been lost.

[KingBeasley08]

This entire Genghis Khan destroyed the Arab world and science is such nonsense.

First of all, the sacking of Baghdad happened 30 years after Genghis Khan's death. That was Hellegu Khan, not Genghis.

More importantly science in the Islamic world experienced a revolution during the mid 700s and peaked during the 800s. By the time the Mongols reared their heads it's 300-400 years later. The Abbasid caliphate was on it's last legs, largely usurped by feuding tribes that didn't give a shit about science and the Abbasids had mostly stopped giving a shit too. Sure there was a nice library, but Baghdad certainly was not a thriving scientific place full of intellectuals during it's sacking.

Very interesting, didn't know that. Thank you

[KingBeasley08]

Alexander the Great fought real opposition though. He had to battle the Greek city-states who were lead by the Athenians. He had to continuously push back against neighboring Thracians and Illyrians while mobilizing to fight against the Persians. And finally, Darius and his Perisans, the most powerful kingdom of the time. Alexander had less men but was still able to beat Darius and become the new King of Kings.

Caesar would be a close 2nd. Constantine the Great would be a 3rd. Genghis would maybe be top 10.

Alexander the Great was gifted a nice army by his pops doe. Philip II pretty much gave him all the Greek city-states to fight with. Alexander the Great def had a bigger influence on the world but he's nowhere near Genghis in terms of being an alpha male

Dresta: Muhammad is a pretty good pick too and could easily have the title as well. Was basically Jesus except instead of the religion becoming big hundreds of years after his death, it became big in his lifetime

[Nick Young]

Alexander the Great fought real opposition though. He had to battle the Greek city-states who were lead by the Athenians. He had to continuously push back against neighboring Thracians and Illyrians while mobilizing to fight against the Persians. And finally, Darius and his Perisans, the most powerful kingdom of the time. Alexander had less men but was still able to beat Darius and become the new King of Kings.

Caesar would be a close 2nd. Constantine the Great would be a 3rd. Genghis would maybe be top 10.

Brah-Ghengis fought against the Chinese, the most technologically advanced military in the world AND the goddamn great wall of China.

[Nick Young]

This is very true. According to Gibbon, Hellegu built a pyramid of 100,000 heads on the ruins of Baghdad; don't even think Genghis was that dramatically vicious.

And then it's not like Muhammed hadn't earlier gone around conquering everyone offering only 'the sword/the koran/or the tribute' to his opponents, and before him the groundwork was laid by other earlier conquests (forget by whom though). In fact, Muhammed could be termed the 'GOAT Alpha male' - was an illiterate goat-herder, who managed to conquer vast areas in short spaces of time, and who laid down his own principles as eternal, so much so that they still have a huge army of followers today. All this while managing to keep 11 wives and innumerable concubines. Guy was a boss.
Alexander does have the benefit of his conquests being generally helpful to humankind, in allowing the spread and proliferation of hellenistic principles and culture that might otherwise have been lost.

Bruh-Ghengis spread every countries ideas from one side of Asia to the East of Europe. Every culture he went to, he took all the good ideas and spread them throughout his empire, and eliminated the shit parts. He is the greatest reformer in the world, and best of all his empire was run through pure meritocracy. Anyone could rise through the ranks if they were qualified enough at what they did. Ghengis Khan was also incredibly progressive in the field of RELIGIOUS TOLERANCE. Every religion was accepted equally.

He wasn't a dumb stinky horsemonger. He was an all around genius leader, in terms of both conquering an empire and keeping it moving forward and united. He was a combination of all the greatest leaders before him mixed with the perfect amount of ruthless Machiavellianism that all great leaders require. We will never see another on his level.

[TheMan]

And handsome as phuck.



Dude looks like he just got back from a one direction audition

80's porn 'stache FTW

[TheMan]

Pfft. The Conquistadors decimated the Native Tribes of America with guns that took a minute to load.

Actually, diseases brought from the Old World to the New World is what brought down the Aztec Empire. Read a history book.

[OhNoTimNoSho]

He killed his older brother when he was 9 years old for stealing a fish from him. Thats boss.

[Trollsmasher]

in the later stages of his rule, he tried to invade vietnam and failed. Good thing im not related to that scum bag.

also one little anecdote. It seems like war mongering back then is the equivalent to billionaire CEO's in present day. Ghengis was the Bill Gates of his time.

Mongols generally stopped where the steppes stopped.

That's why they never tried to get past Hungary in Europe, got obliterated in India and Vietnam, had to buy the Koreans and completly embarassed themselves trying to invade Japan.

The conquest of China is impressive though.

[MightyWhitey]

Alexander the Great was gifted a nice army by his pops doe. Philip II pretty much gave him all the Greek city-states to fight with. Alexander the Great def had a bigger influence on the world but he's nowhere near Genghis in terms of being an alpha male

He was considered the greatest General and Conqueror of all time by rulers from all times and continents like Julius Caesar and the Sultan Mehmet II. He gets the adulation and praise from these great rulers which is Alpha. I have never read any great leader use similar language when it came to Genghis or any Khan after him.
He built cities and named them after him (Alexandria in Egypt for example)
He was a heavy drinker and drank from a large cup humorously called "the cup of Hercules". Alpha at its finest right there.
On his deathbed he was asked whom he would give his Kingdom to and he said "To the strongest'. That right there is the most Alpha Male you can get. The man was admired, considered the greatest (hence the Great in his name) was a drinker and stayed strong and true till the end. Genghis who?

[MightyWhitey]

Brah-Ghengis fought against the Chinese, the most technologically advanced military in the world AND the goddamn great wall of China.

Show me where he defeated the All time greatest like Alexander did with Darius and then we'll talk. Alexander beat Darius' Persians, who outnumbered his army greatly btw, and took the mantle as "King of Kings"! Bruh this is the greatest conqueror of ALL TIME. I have read many books about Alexander and all historians are pretty much in agreement. There is a reason why there are 10 new history books written on Alexander the Great every year. He is still admired to this day as the greatest of all time.

[rezznor]

inspired by Genghis

[kNIOKAS]

There are minority of eastern european people that look asian becuase of him. there is one girl from eastern europe she has the asian features even though none of her parents are asian

Hm maybe because she has asian ancestry?

No seriously Easter European people are so impressed with that guy they start looking like him.


Anyhow, again, why would you recognise some of those mass murderers as greatest human beings?

Alexander does have the benefit of his conquests being generally helpful to humankind, in allowing the spread and proliferation of hellenistic principles and culture that might otherwise have been lost.

Following this rotten type of thinking, guys from WWII accomplished great in allowing the West culture to spread. Which I don't know how could be beneficial, but still. Gulags and Holocaust, very helpful for humankind?