Harden: "Dwight and I are the cornerstones of Rockets, the rest are role players..."

[MJ(Mean John)]

Kobe was also playing in his 7th season, and his fifth as a starter.

Dirk was playing in his 5th season, his fourth as a starter.

As of last season, Harden has played 158 games as a starter, while at the same age, Dirk had started over 350 games while Kobe had started over 340. Derrick Rose has started 120 more games than Harden and he hasn't played in two years.

But you know Harden will never get better. K.

Dude hardens game is wack.

It's all pulling up from 3 in transition or driving to the basket again in transition.

He doesn't expand his game. What you see is what you get. He can't do, what he does much better. Iverson was better than Harden. Harden is overrated.

[UK2K]

Dude hardens game is wack.

It's all pulling up from 3 in transition or driving to the basket again in transition.

He doesn't expand his game. What you see is what you get. He can't do, what he does much better. Iverson was better than Harden. Harden is overrated.

I get it. Players don't improve after 2 seasons as a starter. I understand now.

He's past his peak I guess. Nowhere to go but down.

[MJistheGOAT]

I get it. Players don't improve after 2 seasons as a starter. I understand now.

He's past his peak I guess. Nowhere to go but down.

He will improve his technique of flopping, probably getting more FTs (and fines). So, he is not at his peak yet.

[UK2K]

Kobe was also playing in his 7th season, and his fifth as a starter.

Dirk was playing in his 5th season, his fourth as a starter.

As of last season, Harden has played 158 games as a starter, while at the same age, Dirk had started over 350 games while Kobe had started over 340. Derrick Rose has started 120 more games than Harden and he hasn't played in two years.

But you know Harden will never get better. K.

On a side note, when Kobe had started 160ish games, he was averaging 28,6,5 shooting 46% and averaging 8fta per game and 22fga per game.

Through the same amount of games started, Harden averaged 26,6,5 shooting 46% and averaging 10fta per game and 17fga per game.

Just saying.

[Milbuck]

I get it. Players don't improve after 2 seasons as a starter. I understand now.

He's past his peak I guess. Nowhere to go but down.

Ugh. His improvement was never the focal point of the discussion. Constantly bringing it up is irrelevant considering that he will never be on their level.

[Milbuck]

On a side note, when Kobe had started 160ish games, he was averaging 28,6,5 shooting 46% and averaging 8fta per game and 22fga per game.

Through the same amount of games started, Harden averaged 26,6,5 shooting 46% and averaging 10fta per game and 17fga per game.

Just saying.

Except that Kobe played great defense back then during his athletic peak. And he had one of the most expansive offensive arsenals ever. During playoff time, his game wasn't one that was extremely predictable and easily containable the way Harden's currently is.

[ronnymac]

He is right.

Lin was a role player at best with a few good games here and there.Nothing more then a role player.
Asik a very, very good role player
Parsons was a borderline star and super role player


This season coming

Ariza a very good role player
Beverley a good role player
Jones has potential but right now, he is a role player
DMO ok player with potential
Dorsey unknown but a max potential of a work horse role player
Johnson a rookie
Cannan has potential.

So who exactly is he wrong about?. You think Ariza and Bev don't know their place?

[Kvnzhangyay]

He I right.

Lin was a role player at best with a few good games here and there.Nothing more then a role player.
Asik a very, very good role player
Parsons was a borderline star and super role player


This season coming

Ariza a very good role player
Beverley a good role player
Jones has potential but right now, he is a role player
DMO ok player with potential
Dorsey unknown but a max potential of a work horse role player
Johnson a rookie
Cannan has potential.

So who exactly is he wrong about?. You think Ariza and Bev don't know their place?

There's nothing wrong, but you don't just say shit like that

At work what if your boss was like I'm the cornerstone, your just a piece that can be fired/replaced any time

[josh99]

Idiot thing to say, good luck trying to win a game 2 v 5.

[ronnymac]

There's nothing wrong, but you don't just say shit like that

At work what if your boss was like I'm the cornerstone, your just a piece that can be fired/replaced any time

Well do you know if any of those guys are offended or just assuming?.Those guys know their place. Infact Ariza said as much in his media conference.Ariza and Bev are there to " compliment" Dwight and Harden.

[KungFuJoe]

Sounds like Harden is getting pretty defensive there.

That's a first.

[Number24]

It's even more irrational to in predicting it in the first place. Why bother? He has another 12 years in the league at least.

We saw Kobe sucking it up at that age too, flunking terribly in the finals multiple times, yet having Shaq there to make up for his sub 40% shooting.

Oh God... You are dragging down Kobe's name in this discussion to make another horrible "potential-since-day-1-up-to-now" player look decent... Perspective indeed!

For one, Kobe at Harden's age now knows one f*cking important thing about basketball that Harden still has to meet, DEFENSE!

I know you'll gonna put up the percentages but this I say to you, at least Kobe does it with style, and Harden?.. just enjoy his beard!

[unknowns8]

Sounds like Harden is getting pretty defensive there.

That's a first.

i see what you did there and well played to you sir ...

[russwest0]

harden is smoking a fat fukking blunt right now and you loser are criticizing him lol

cornerstones to a first round exit!!!

[Purch]

The Spurs all year " We all have a part in this, we all win together and by playing as a team"

Harden" Me and Dwight are the cornerstones, everyone else are role players"

Which one do you think produces the most confidence?