Most undeserving MVP's

[pauk]

Many mention Nash, which makes me wonder if anyone actually saw him play and comprehend how well he impacted his team compared to others that year? With his offensive orchestration & intangibles he was accountable for anything that happened to that Suns team offensively, they ended up having the best team records and suffered dramatically when he didnt play... wouldnt make sense to give it to anyone else that year imo...

[aj1987]

Many mention Nash, which makes me wonder if anyone actually saw him play and comprehend how well he impacted his team compared to others that year? With his offensive orchestration & intangibles he was accountable for anything that happened to that Suns team offensively, they ended up having the best team records and suffered dramatically when he didnt play... wouldnt make sense to give it to anyone else that year imo...

The '06 Lakers would've barely won 15 games, if they didn't have Kobe.

[gts]

http://www.basketball-reference.com/...ards_1962.html

Damn! It wasn't even close!

It really wasn't was it...

Players know who brings what to the table

[gts]

What's wild is that players rarely ever had a chance to see other players games and basically voted on how a player played against them and then the box scores. So they basically saw Wilt come in and basically destroy their team and then saw that Wilt was demolishing the others teams in the box scores. It wasn't like the league was into defense either because nobody was into playing it.

And players could not vote for guys on their own team.

Biggest thing I see on a quick scan is Boston went 60-20 that season including 8-4 against Wilt's team

[Legends66NBA7]

Both of Karl Malone's MVP years. He was actually more deserving of it in 1998, though.

[97 bulls]

http://www.basketball-reference.com/...ards_1962.html

Damn! It wasn't even close!

Just goes to show that players view winning as being more important than stats. From frequenting Insidehooops, if I didnt know any better, id believe its better to put up 25-ppg on 50% shooting than 17 pts on 47% and win. Defense is an afterthought and not as important as offense. And championships only count if you were the best player on the team.

[QuebecBaller]

Steve Nash won the 2005 MVP averaging 15/11.

A complete disgrace.

mvp = most valuable, not most statistical

[Dengness9]

Funny how all but 1 poster who mentioned Rose in 11 is a bandwagon Heat fan.

And notice how they don't even have another person who should've won in front of him.

[aj1987]

Funny how all but 1 poster who mentioned Rose in 11 is a bandwagon Heat fan.

And notice how they don't even have another person who should've won in front of him.

IMO Dwight or Lebron should've won it over Rose, but it's wasn't the worst by any measure.

[Jameerthefear]

IMO Dwight or Lebron should've won it over Rose, but it's wasn't the worst by any measure.

Lebron shouldn't have won it by any stretch.

[Dengness9]

IMO Dwight or Lebron should've won it over Rose, but it's wasn't the worst by any measure.

Dwight had great numbers but his team was 52-30 that year, which was 10 less than the Bulls won. Not to mention Dwight Howard can be a liability in the crunch w/ his horrid free throw shooting.

And I personally think Lebron doesn't deserve it when the Heat won 4 less games than the Bulls. Can't chalk it up to the Big 3 getting accustomed to each other when that was Thibs first years as Bulls coach and Boozer's first year w/ the team. Both Bulls and Heat were dealing w/ a lot of new pieces/etc.

Not to mention Boozer missed 23 games that season, Joakim missed 34 games, and Deng played the entire year w/ a bum wrist.

Derrick Rose was absolutely deserving.

If you dont think so, back it up w/ something....anything.

[aj1987]

If you dont think so, back it up w/ something....anything.

Dwight and Lebron had better stats than Rose and they were significantly better than him defensively, not to mention the efficiency. The Bulls worked very well as a team under Thibs. They were really good defensively. Without Rose, they still would've made the playoffs. Without Dwight, the Magic wouldn't have made the playoffs for sure.

Dwight: 22.9 PPG 14.1 RPG 1.4 APG 1.4 SPG 2.4 BPG on 59% WS/48 - .235
Lebron: 27.7 PPG 7.5 RPG 7.0 APG 1.6 SPG 0.6 BPG on 51% WS/48 - .244
Rose[COLOR="White"]...[/COLOR]: 25.0 PPG 4.1 RPG 7.7 APG 1.0 SPG 0.6 BPG on 45% WS/48 - .208

[ProfessorMurder]

KG should've won in '08. Huge franchise turnaround, DPOY, changed the culture of the team, best record in the league.

Dwight and Lebron had better stats than Rose and they were significantly better than him defensively, not to mention the efficiency. The Bulls worked very well as a team under Thibs. They were really good defensively. Without Rose, they still would've made the playoffs. Without Dwight, the Magic wouldn't have made the playoffs for sure.

Dwight: 22.9 PPG 14.1 RPG 1.4 APG 1.4 SPG 2.4 BPG on 59% WS/48 - .235
Lebron: 27.7 PPG 7.5 RPG 7.0 APG 1.6 SPG 0.6 BPG on 51% WS/48 - .244
Rose[COLOR="White"]...[/COLOR]: 25.0 PPG 4.1 RPG 7.7 APG 1.0 SPG 0.6 BPG on 45% WS/48 - .208

I think Dirk even had a better year than Rose too.

[aj1987]

I think Dirk even had a better year than Rose too.

That Dallas team also wouldn't have made the playoffs without Dirk.

[Rose'sACL]

Dwight had great numbers but his team was 52-30 that year, which was 10 less than the Bulls won. Not to mention Dwight Howard can be a liability in the crunch w/ his horrid free throw shooting.

And I personally think Lebron doesn't deserve it when the Heat won 4 less games than the Bulls. Can't chalk it up to the Big 3 getting accustomed to each other when that was Thibs first years as Bulls coach and Boozer's first year w/ the team. Both Bulls and Heat were dealing w/ a lot of new pieces/etc.

Not to mention Boozer missed 23 games that season, Joakim missed 34 games, and Deng played the entire year w/ a bum wrist.

Derrick Rose was absolutely deserving.

If you dont think so, back it up w/ something....anything.

I agree that rose/howard deserved MVP more than lebron that year. Lebron was still the best player in the league but not the most valuable player.

I would have given it to howard though given that howard played on a far worse team and still producing a little better stats than rose while being 10x the defensive player Rose was.
If people took defense into consideration, Howard should have won it easily.