Man charged in double murder of teens who broke into home.

[ripthekik]

Smith said he shot her and she also fell down the stairs. He said he tried to shoot her again, and when his Mini 14 rifle jammed, she laughed at him.

Smith told investigators that made him mad: "If you're trying to shoot somebody and they laugh at you, you go again," he said, according to the complaint.

Minnesota law allows a homeowner to use deadly force on an intruder if a reasonable person would fear they're in danger of harm.

this is the important point here. Would a reasonable person fear that they are in danger of harm after seeing 2 teenagers walking down from the stairs? Are they holding guns themselves?

Unless he can prove it beyond reasonable doubt, should be easy for the prosecuting lawyer to get his ass for murder. he crossed the line.

and OP so i can just bait anyone to come into my house and shoot them, and get out murder free? wtf? some kid steals candy from me and I can shoot him in the face too?

[chazzy]

The shooter is way too honest. He's screwed

[Kungfro]

Since we don't know the whole story.....I will say this.


You break into someones house = expect to get shot/killed.

deal wit it.

If he had simply shot them and called the police, he'd probably be fine. He admitted to a lot more then that though.

When the teenager tumbled down the stars, Smith shot him in the face as he lay on the floor, looking up.
'I want him dead,' the complaint quoted Smith as telling an investigator.
He dragged the body into his workshop and then sat in the chair, the complaint said. When Kifer began walking down the stairs, he shot her and she fell down the stairs.
He tried to shoot her again with his rifle, but the gun jammed and Kifer laughed at him, the complaint noted.
'If you're trying to shoot somebody and they laugh at you, you go again,' Smith, 64, told investigators, according to a criminal complaint filed Monday.
He then shot her several times in the chest with a .22-caliber revolver, dragged her next to her cousin, and with as she gasped for air, fired a shot under her chin 'up into the cranium'.
'Smith described it as "a good clean finishing shot",' according to the compliant, and acknowledged he had fired 'more shots than (he) needed to'.

[Jailblazers7]

Yeah, that dude is going to jail. No point in even arguing about it.

[MetsPackers]

Dude should fry. What kind of regular citizen is just ok with executing people who are already shot, kids none the less. Shoots them, drags their bodies to his garage, executes them. I hope this dude has the biggest blackest molestingest buttholelovingest cellmate in Minnesota

[Sharmer]

Any reasonable person, would not act in this way.

I don't have gun, we have different laws in Australia.

However I do various weapons around the house, and if I had my home broken into, I wouldn't hesitate to use them. The difference is I wouldn't be intent on killing them, just defending myself.

We have the right to protects ourselves, however that doesn't mean we are entitled to kill intruders who don't pose a immediate threat.

If I was the defense, I would be arguing that the he made the statements under stress, and wasn't in a normal state of mind, and it was really fear that motivated the additional shots.

[Lebron23]

That B1tch is crazy.

[Lebron23]

Pictures of Haile Kifer and Nicholas Brady

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg...Rid=101316906&

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[Remix]

dumbass kids looking for drugs.

[gigantes]

about the girl laughing- truth can be stranger than fiction, so you never know. laughter can also be a nervous or even hysterical reaction.

considering the generally positive characters of the teenagers, i'd also suspect that drugs might be involved.

the homeowner went over the line, no doubt... but my point is, his story is not necessarily a fabrication IMO. there will be plenty of ways they can verify / debunk it by testing and analysis...

[OhNoTimNoSho]

wtf is wrong with these kids? Cousins, young, semi attractive going around robbing houses..

[Heavincent]

You break into someones house = expect to get shot/killed.

deal wit it.

This.

[AngelEyes]

Anyone here ever watch Deadwood? Reading about this story kind of reminds me of Miles and Flora from Deadwood.

[Hazard]

Homeowner is a paranoid coward, just like the OP. Whatever happened to bashing someones face in? Guess what, if those teens posed any kind of threat that old fart would have never gotten a shot off. He's just a sick sadistic piece of shit, human waste in its purest form.

[andremiller07]

Since we don't know the whole story.....I will say this.


You break into someones house = expect to get shot/killed.

deal wit it.

This x 2

Non of this happends if they don't break in and be scumbags, dumbasses have to pay the penalty.