Why didn't kobe have a positive impact in 2006 2007

[rlsmooth775]

Sure Kobe had a mediocre support but if he was really this top 10 player all time Why did his team do so poor those years. It's not like he had to face stacked teams with dominant players at every position he just doesn't make his team better.

[SexSymbol]

Sure Kobe had a mediocre support but if he was really this top 10 player all time Why did his team do so poor those years. It's not like he had to face stacked teams with dominant players at every position he just doesn't make his team better.

He had the same unit on the top of the western conference in 08 before they got gasol.
And the Lakers with him gave it all to the Suns in 06.
That's as good as it gets with Luke Walton Kwame Brown and Smush Parker in the starting line up

[Droid101]

Poor? Seven seeds in some of the most difficult conferences ever with notables getting major starting minutes: Smush Parker (out of the league) Chris Mihm (out of the league), Luke Walton, Kwame Brown (all out of the league) etc.

Please, this stupid thread again? How many times do we have to do this?

[6 for 24]

It's true; think of what Kobe did in '06. With only Odom at his side, he managed to take the all-time great Suns (featuring NBA legends Tim Thomas, Raja Bell, and Leandro Barbosa) to a game 7! He should have won both MVP and FMVP that year for that.

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[dubeta]

kobe's not that good its pretty simple

[Artillery]

That's why i don't have him in the all-time top ten. Kobe falls more in the 12-15 range. At his peak, he doesn't impact the game much at all. He basically put up a bunch of empty stats while his team didn't win much games. He then proceeded to get owned by Steve Nash back-to-back in the playoffs. Quit on his team team in 2006 after being up 3-1. Nash proved why he was the true MVP that year when he carried that Amare-less Suns team into the conerence finals.

Lebron made the Finals with Larry Hughes as his 2nd best player(on a team coached by Mike Brown)

[ThePhantomCreep]

That's why i don't have him in the all-time top ten. Kobe falls more in the 12-15 range. At his peak, he doesn't impact the game much at all. He basically put up a bunch of empty stats while his team didn't win much games. He then proceeded to get owned by Steve Nash back-to-back in the playoffs. Quit on his team team in 2006 after being up 3-1. Nash proved why he was the true MVP that year when he carried that Amare-less Suns team into the conerence finals.

You're the poster who thinks 20 mpg Manu is more impactful than Kobe. And then you wonder why your opinion is in the minority...

[rlsmooth775]

Poor? Seven seeds in some of the most difficult conferences ever with notables getting major starting minutes: Smush Parker (out of the league) Chris Mihm (out of the league), Luke Walton, Kwame Brown (all out of the league) etc.

Please, this stupid thread again? How many times do we have to do this?

Really he wasn't playing a ton of stacked teams. If Kobe is so great why were the lakers no different than the clippers

[Droid101]

"Doesn't make his teammates better" is the stupidest thing ever. Good god. I think Pau's PER jumped four points and his shooting percentage jumped 8% when he joined Kobe on the already West-leading Lakers in 2008.

Clown.

[Artillery]

You're the poster who thinks 20 mpg Manu is more impactful than Kobe. And then you wonder why your opinion is in the minority...

Facts are facts. Prime Kobe is 0-2 against Steve Nash. Not top-ten material.

[Nashty]

How come Odom and Walton were more valuable than Kobe in 2006-07? With both of them, but without Bryant in the lineup the Lakers were 3-0 (1.000). Those wins came against the 42-40 Warriors, 61-21 Suns, and 30-52 Hawks. Lakers lost two games without Bryant, but one of those games was played without both Odom and Walton, and in the other with Odom, but without Walton. So, the Lakers were 3-2 (.600) without Bryant, 7-15 (.318) without Walton, and 12-14 (.462) without Odom.

[ThePhantomCreep]

Facts are facts. Prime Kobe is 0-2 against Steve Nash. Not top-ten material.

Prime Kareem missed the playoffs twice.

How many pegs should he be knocked down?

[ImKobe]

why does no one ever mention that Kobe in 08 lead the team to the top of the Western Conference in the first 46 games without a Pau Gasol? 53-win pace without a single all-star on the team in the Western Conference, finished with 57 wins after adding Pau.

[ThePhantomCreep]

How come Odom and Walton were more valuable than Kobe in 2006-07? With both of them, but without Bryant in the lineup the Lakers were 3-0 (1.000). Those wins came against the 42-40 Warriors, 61-21 Suns, and 30-52 Hawks. Lakers lost two games without Bryant, but one of those games was played without both Odom and Walton, and in the other with Odom, but without Walton. So, the Lakers were 3-2 (.600) without Bryant, 7-15 (.318) without Walton, and 12-14 (.462) without Odom.

Luke Walton = most valuable Laker.

You heard it here first.

[ImKobe]

How come Odom and Walton were more valuable than Kobe in 2006-07? With both of them, but without Bryant in the lineup the Lakers were 3-0 (1.000). Those wins came against the 42-40 Warriors, 61-21 Suns, and 30-52 Hawks. Lakers lost two games without Bryant, but one of those games was played without both Odom and Walton, and in the other with Odom, but without Walton. So, the Lakers were 3-2 (.600) without Bryant, 7-15 (.318) without Walton, and 12-14 (.462) without Odom.

Yes, Walton and Odom and better players than Kobe Bryant. They won a lot of rings without him on other teams because he held them back

Odom sure shined after being traded to Dallas, Walton finally became the white Lebron James when he got traded to Cleveland, both are still very relevant as players and are leading their respective teams to future championships.