What Are the Chances Miami Actually Wins 7 Championships?

[toneloc103]

We all remember the pre-season celebration. In it, someone asked Lebron how many championships they would win. Lebron said, "Not 1, not 2, not 3, not 4, not 5, not 6, etc."

We all see how great Miami is. They are head and shoulders above the rest. Could they actually win 7 championships?

Let's not forget Jordan won 6 titles with the Bulls.

Could we say that collectively the Miami Heat, in this era, is collectively better over-all than the Bulls were in their era?

They have the best player in the game, as did the Bulls. They have one of the best shooting guards of all time in Dwayne Wade. They have other legit all-stars and role players. They have a good coach in Spo. The organization is great. The city is great.

If you think about it, if they don't win 6-7 titles, it would be more of a surprise. The Miami Heat have everything they need to win multiple championships.

Maybe Lebron wasn't exaggerating after-all. Maybe we just failed to realize how great this team would actually be. They are that good.

no chance.. age injury, free angency will all play a factor.. I dont think any team will ever win that many as a group..

[ReturnofJPR]

That is terrible logic.

Of course they were going to suck, the engine that made it go was gone. The Cleveland teams are built very much like the current Miami team(shooters, and defensive role-players). The big difference is Lebron has legitimated second option in Wade, that he never got in Cleveland.

The Cavs FO had the right blueprint......they just came up short.

They tanked to get a better draft pick and Stern basically guaranteed them draft success which later turned into Kyrie Irving.

One can not put into words the psychological turmoil and effect both the team and city went through with Bron's departure. There were borderline riots, burning of jerseys, etc.

[DMV2]

Incorrect. They won 19 games the year after LeBron left. 19 games. For a good majority of the season they had the worst record in the league that year and made somewhat of a surge towards the end to move up to second worst. If that's not evidence that they were simply terrible, I don't know what is. Plus, Bosh is better than the entire Cavs frontcourt combined.

They might not win 7, but anywhere from 4-6 wouldn't be surprising at all.

1. The 2011 Cavs were clearly tanking that season.

2. Because of injuries, they werent even the same Cavs team LeBron had to be honest. Varejao played 31 games, Mo Williams played 36 games. Jamison played 56 games, started only 36.

Only regular guys who played with LeBron from the previous season that played a full season in 2011 were Anthony Parker and JJ Hickson.

Not saying they would have been in the playoffs with the regular core but I think they would have gotten about 30 wins max if they were healthy and weren't in tank mode.

[Ne 1]

Jordan would have had 8 if not for playing professional baseball for the Chicago White Sox.

Well he came back in 1995 and lost to Orlando, so the most you can speculate he would have won if if he wasn't playing minor league baseball is 7. And it's still no guarantee they beat Houston even with Jordan in '94.

[jimmy77x]

Their ceiling is 2 more, realistically 1 more before the league figures out how to beat them no matter how good lebron is.

[DMV2]

Well he came back in 1995 and lost to Orlando, so the most you can speculate he would have won if if he wasn't playing minor league baseball is 7. And it's still no guarantee they beat Houston even with Jordan in '94.

He came in March, played like 17 games. Most people gave him a mulligan for that.

Bulls vs Rockets 1994 and 1995 Finals would have been great series, if he didn't retire and played throughout the years. 1995 might not happen b/c of the Magic but 1994 definitely would have happened.

[game3524]

Well he came back in 1995 and lost to Orlando, so the most you can speculate he would have won if if he wasn't playing minor league baseball is 7. And it's still no guarantee they beat Houston even with Jordan in '94.

Hell, I would go one step further, I don't think they would have made it back to the Finals.

[DMV2]

Hell, I would go one step further, I don't think they would have made it back to the Finals.

Which East team would have beaten them if Jordan didn't retire?

[game3524]

Which East team would have beaten them if Jordan didn't retire?

The Knicks.

Teams just run out of gas on the fourth attempt at the Finals.

[DMV2]

The Knicks.

Teams just run out of gas on the fourth attempt at the Finals.

Jordan used to clown Ewing and the Knicks.

And when they finally defeated the Bulls, when MJ was "playing" baseball, it still took them 7 games to do so.

[kNicKz]

I think they'll break up the big 3 when their contracts are up. Maybe Lebron and Wade stay. If wade is still playing at this level (he's been on fire as of late after a slump)

[kNicKz]

Jordan used to clown Ewing and the Knicks.

Nobody clowned anyone, those are some of the greatest playoff series in history, and michael jordan has praised patrick ewing on numerous occasions for being one of his toughest opponents. You're acting as if losing to the greatest player to ever play is an embarrassment or something ... "Omg they lost to the 96 bulls! they **** ing suck!"

[2010splash]

Those players were good, bottomline. We are talking about when he was there, not afterwards. Players like Ray Allen wouldn't be in Miami if not for Bron, same thing happened to Cleveland after he left.

J.J. Hickson, Big Z, and Anderson Varajeo are 3 very good bigs. Miami only has 1.

Miami's 1 good big is far better than any of Cleveland's. You seriously think the Heat would trade Bosh for any combination of Cleveland's bigs?

And yes, Cleveland's record was really good when LeBron was there. Mo Williams is an average player by NBA standards (maybe a little above average with Cleveland) and he was the second best player on those teams. Guys like Varejao, Ilgauskas, Hickson and the rest are nothing more than role players.

[2010splash]

That is terrible logic.

Of course they were going to suck, the engine that made it go was gone. The Cleveland teams are built very much like the current Miami team(shooters, and defensive role-players). The big difference is Lebron has legitimated second option in Wade, that he never got in Cleveland.

The Cavs FO had the right blueprint......they just came up short.

No it's not. What's worse logic is citing their supposed "fit" next to LeBron as a reason for them being a good supporting cast. So they had some good 3-pt shooters, defensive players and rebounders... so what? They're still role players and nowhere near championship caliber. Winning 19 games mean you suck.

Take LeBron off this Heat team and they still win 50+ games. That's the difference between a great supporting cast and the trash he had in Cleveland.

[stephanieg]

Maybe wait for them to win a title that actually counts first.