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Old 06-21-2015, 09:12 PM   #61
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Default Re: This "Weight-lifting" fad and its effects(negative) on the modern league.

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Any1 else notice how much bigger iggys,arms/neck/shoulders were then lebrons during the finals?? I mean lebron might weigh more but iggy has to be close because he looks like the biggest mofo in the nba pound 4 pound,Westbrook is a close 2nd...

lebron muscles just don't pop this season like they used to,he looks 275ish 2 years ago and now like 250ish,Iggy looks 250 as well but he's almost 2-3 inches shorter.
Iggy is ripped but Lebron is 10x stronger than the guy.


Muscle size doesn't equal strength. God some people
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Old 06-21-2015, 09:16 PM   #62
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you're missing the point.

a basketball player's strength relies in the strength of their core, legs, and their physical conditioning (how long their body can move at maximum effort before it needs to rest).

but if you bulk-up unnecessarily (biceps/triceps/pecs etc) and stress your joints then your body will break down faster, it's just a fact, especially due to all the movement you have to do on the basketball court.

if you see bruce lee for example, he was extremely powerful, but you wouldn't know it by looking at him. why is that? because he practiced cardio intensely. he knew that too much mass would slow him down so that's why he would always place an emphasis on his cardio so that his body would stay slim and toned because too much bulk would slow him down.

people use karl malone as an example but he put in an immense amount of work on his cardio (someone said that he worked out 6-8 hours a day) so that his body was well conditioned for the stress of the basketball court (running and stopping, twisting, turning, etc).

it's like players nowadays have turned ussj instead of ssj2, thinking that they have found the secret when in reality they have only stifled themselves.

here's a good informational video that describes what has happened to the league.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1iF9OSYHlY
I don't agree with you on some points but gah damn, this is on point.


Iggy would benefit a lot more, in the game of BASKETBALL, if he stopped trying to get bigger. Bulk is not for sports. All it does is slow you down.
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Old 06-21-2015, 09:27 PM   #63
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Many of the currently injured players are not super buff or anything:

Derrick Rose
Durant
Kyrie Irving and Kevin Love
Joel Embiid
Anthony Parker



And here are the recent super-stars who had injuries kill their careers...none of these guys were super-buff either:

Penny
Grant Hill
T-mac
Brandon Roy
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Old 06-21-2015, 10:23 PM   #64
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Trap bar deadlift? Higher starting point? Why not just do normal deadlifts

Its done him well, I just don't get it. Are his trainers to lazy too make sure he does proper form?

Why do people keep shitting on the trap bar deadlift? I've done it like twice myself just to try it out and it is an exercise like any other. You use it to focus on particular things.

Don't want to get an extremely thick trunk, and focus more on glutes? Trap bar deadlift seems fine.
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Old 06-21-2015, 10:25 PM   #65
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Why do people keep shitting on the trap bar deadlift? I've done it like twice myself just to try it out and it is an exercise like any other. You use it to focus on particular things.

Don't want to get an extremely thick trunk, and focus more on glutes? Trap bar deadlift seems fine.
Deadlifts are more a dick measuring contest than an actual lift.


Not to mention, why **** your back up?

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Old 06-21-2015, 10:32 PM   #66
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Weight lifting has become a fad. It's not hard to see why though.

1. it is easy as **** to do. You only do the movement for a few reps, and then you stand around waiting for a couple of minutes dicking around.

2. people like the look it gives them. even though the muscles are better for show than for performance.

1. Bball players don't work out at Planet Fitness. And they have strength coaches. Pretty sure they would get fired for letting the players stand around

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Old 06-21-2015, 10:34 PM   #67
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Deadlifts are more a dick measuring contest than an actual lift.


Not to mention, why **** your back up?

Deadlifts are the best core exercise on the planet
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Old 06-21-2015, 10:38 PM   #68
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Deadlifts are more a dick measuring contest than an actual lift.


Not to mention, why **** your back up?

Deadlifts are awesome for building a strong core and to work on general explosiveness.
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Old 06-21-2015, 10:50 PM   #69
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Deadlifts are more a dick measuring contest than an actual lift.


Not to mention, why **** your back up?

Confirmed idiot who has never lifted
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Old 06-21-2015, 10:51 PM   #70
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Deadlifts are more a dick measuring contest than an actual lift.


Not to mention, why **** your back up?

This confirmed you don't lift. Go outside to get some sunlight.
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Old 06-21-2015, 11:09 PM   #71
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It's less about weight lifting and more about using the right muscle.

When you jump/run, if you land using the wrong muscle, you will hurt your knee. It might not show in the short term but it will definitely show long term. Never let force travels up your knee, take it up the butt instead. No, seriously, the gluteous maximus or butt muscle are where you want the force to travel to since it's the strongest/largest muscle. A lot of people don't know how to do this consistently thus why they get hurt, especially considering the rigorous schedule of the NBA.

For example, in badminton, it's basic technique when you lunge you have to land on your heel even though most everything else you land on your forefoot. Why? Because lunging without landing on the heel is terrible for the knee. It's all about movement techniques and even a very fat, non muscular person won't get injured if he masters that.
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Old 06-21-2015, 11:51 PM   #72
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Weight lifting in and of itself doesn't really harm basketball performance.

Being 10-20 pounds heavier as a result of having a lot more muscle mass does exert more stress on the knees and back when running and jumping though.
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Old 06-22-2015, 12:03 AM   #73
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This confirmed you don't lift. Go outside to get some sunlight.
Sorry, but if you've ever been to the gym(doubt it), 99% of the people you see do not have the right form.(IE too much weight in most cases) If you aren't doing the proper weight, no matter what you can handle, you're hurting your back as much as you are "GETTING THAT CORE STRENGTH BRO". Its common sense. Then again, I see people doing deads without braces and i cringe.

http://stronglifts.com/deadlift/back-pain/


Sorry bout it, but a simple google search would suffice for the 3 of you derps.

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Old 06-22-2015, 12:22 AM   #74
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Weight lifting in excess is just mental mastur bation.
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Old 06-22-2015, 01:09 AM   #75
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Sorry, but if you've ever been to the gym(doubt it), 99% of the people you see do not have the right form.(IE too much weight in most cases) If you aren't doing the proper weight, no matter what you can handle, you're hurting your back as much as you are "GETTING THAT CORE STRENGTH BRO". Its common sense. Then again, I see people doing deads without braces and i cringe.

http://stronglifts.com/deadlift/back-pain/


Sorry bout it, but a simple google search would suffice for the 3 of you derps.

so because apparently "99%" of people don't have the right form people shouldn't do deadlift? Logic 10/10.
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