Stats prove Lebron is on Bird/MJ assist-level, not Magic/Stockton/CP3 level

[CuterThanRubio]

Magic, Stockton, and CP3 have some of the highest home/away assist differentials, while LeBron is only +.2 at home

I already made a thread addressing the faulty stat keeping that Stockton benefited from.

LeBron is a better passer than MJ and Bird on every level, this thread is garbo

[KiiiiNG]

When was LeBron ever the best passer in the league?

He's had an argument since 2004. Who else passes the ball as accurately with as much force? Nobody.

Jordan was never in "best passer" discussions. I think LeBron's the best to this day, and a lot of people agree with me.

[PP34Deuce]

Skip Bayless and Jeff Van Gundy are some of the most critical people of Lebron and even they would say he's easily one of the best passers of all time. Most guys say he is as close to Magic Johnson in passing.

Bird was great, Chris Paul is great, Nash is great. Lebron has their floor general mindset but his athletiscm combined with his smarts makes his passes even more incredible.

[3ball]

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[color="navy"]DEFENSIVE ASSIGNMENTS BY QUARTER, 1991 FINALS:[/color]

[color="darkred"]Pippen guarded Magic for:[/color]

GAME 1: none
GAME 2: 2nd, 3rd and 4th quarters
GAME 3: 2nd and 3rd quarters
GAME 4: the last 4 minutes of 4th quarter
GAME 5: none

[color="darkred"]Here's all 5 games in their entirety:[/color]

Game 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncUC9fSFdik
Game 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3S6AWPT6fG0
Game 3: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cueGQChyFuU
Game 4: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PO0LJVxaqD0
Game 5: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCNFQSBUe5c

[color="darkred"]Overall, MJ guarded Magic for 14 of 20 quarters (70%), compared to only 6 of 20 for Pippen (30%)[/color].
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[Smoke117]

Magic > Jordan

[3ball]

Magic > Jordan

[COLOR="Navy"]Magic was only 31 years old in 1991, and runner-up for MVP in regular season, but he was utterly destroyed by the MVP winner and goat:[/COLOR]


[color="darkred"]JORDAN 1991 FINALS:[/color]. 33/7/11 on 56%
[color="purple"]MAGIC.. 1991 FINALS:[/color]. 19/7/13 on 43%


Jordan's GOAT two-way performance included being the primary defender on Magic - MJ guarded him for 14 of 20 quarters, which included holding Magic to 0-0-0 with 1 TO in critical Game 3 OT, shown here.. (btw, Pippen missed that OT by fouling out).
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[COLOR="DarkRed"]Use per 100 possessions to eliminate differences in the number of POSSESSIONS
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Assists Per 100 Possessions (Playoffs)

MAGIC[COLOR="White"]....L[/COLOR]15.1
STOCTON[COLOR="White"]..[/COLOR]15.4
CP3[COLOR="White"]........V[/COLOR]13.0

LEBRON[COLOR="White"].... [/COLOR]8.7
BIRD[COLOR="White"]........ [/COLOR]7.6
JORDAN[COLOR="White"]..N [/COLOR]7.4


Assists Per 100 Possessions (Regular Season)

STOCTON[COLOR="White"]..[/COLOR]16.8
CP3[COLOR="White"]........V[/COLOR]14.6
MAGIC[COLOR="White"]....L[/COLOR]14.5

LEBRON[COLOR="White"].... [/COLOR]9.4
BIRD[COLOR="White"]........ [/COLOR]7.9
JORDAN[COLOR="White"]..N [/COLOR]7.0



[COLOR="Navy"]Lebron, Bird and Jordan are [COLOR="darkred"]within 1[/COLOR] assist of each other, while Lebron is [COLOR="darkred"]6+ assists behind[/COLOR] Magic/Stockton/CP3.

So Lebron is on Bird/Jordan's assist level, not Magic/Stockton/CP3.[/COLOR]

Jordan achieved nearly the same assists as Lebron with less turnovers - but more importantly, he scored 5.5 ppg more in the playoffs with better clutch and efficiency across the board (TS, FG, ORtg) - these things control the game better than Lebron's 2.5 def rebound edge (with less offensive rebound) and 1.0 assist edge (with more turnovers).

There's never been a #1 option that scored 5.5 more points on better efficiency that wasn't considered the FAR better player.. Can you imagine if Lebron averaged 5.5 more ppg with better efficiency?.. He'd be on a completely different level.

Similar to 2011 (when Wade led the team in playoff scoring), the Cavs are so stacked that they don't need Lebron to lead them in scoring - he trails Kyrie by 2 ppg, whereas the Bulls needed Jordan to be scoring leader for every playoff series of his career by an average of 15.4 ppg.. So Jordan's scoring edge on his teammates is 17 points bigger than Lebron's scoring edge on his teammates.

Btw, assist percentages show that MJ led the Bulls in passing - he had the highest assist percentage for both 3-peats, [COLOR="darkred"]so he assisted on the highest proportion of teammate FG's[/COLOR].. In addition to his team-leading passing, Jordan led the Bulls in scoring for every playoff series of his career by an average of 15.4 ppg.... and played the best defense ever at his position...

[Straight_Ballin]

MJ assist-level? That's a huge insult - but we know you're just trolling.

Jordan played on the most stacked teams and STILL couldn't match LBJ's assist numbers. If LeBron played like Magic, he'd average MORE than Johnson. LeBron has been the best SCORER and PASSER in the league at one time - something no other player in history could say!

lol these kids believe anything some guy on realcavsfans.com tells them.