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Old 10-15-2019, 02:41 PM   #1
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Old 10-15-2019, 02:43 PM   #2
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watching the chargers on defense from last year to this year... derwin james is gonna win a dpoy or several.
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Old 10-15-2019, 06:17 PM   #3
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MVP seems a little cloudy right now at this moment. Mahomes not looking so stellar....I think I might have McCaffrey at #1 or maybe Wilson. Watson up there too
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Old 10-16-2019, 10:56 AM   #4
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MVP seems a little cloudy right now at this moment. Mahomes not looking so stellar....I think I might have McCaffrey at #1 or maybe Wilson. Watson up there too
Mahomes still leads the league in yards, 2nd in QB rating, and has had a tough schedule and injuries to himself and the team as a whole. He's behind Wilson for the time being... but it's still neck and neck. It's funny at 24 he's already held to the highest standard possible in the sport. I'm sure if his name wasn't Mahomes he'd be at the top of the list being 4-2 with that defense.

McCaffrey at 3rd.
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Old 11-08-2019, 01:29 PM   #5
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Russell has been fantastic but I think McCaffrey deserves the MVP more up to this point.

He's been by far the best RB in football which is a stupidly stacked position and is pretty much single-handedly carrying a team on his back.

Rookie QB and bad defense? 5-3

Leads the league in almost every statistical category for an RB.


2nd best player in football aside from Mahomes.
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Old 11-08-2019, 01:37 PM   #6
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Lamar Jackson up there now...Ravens just schooled the Patriots and are 6-3 on Lamar's feet

1. Wilson
2. Lamar
3. Watson
4. Rodgers
5. McCaffrey

Low key candidate...Jimmy Garoppolo if 9ers keep winning
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Old 11-08-2019, 04:23 PM   #7
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Lamar Jackson up there now...Ravens just schooled the Patriots and are 6-3 on Lamar's feet

1. Wilson
2. Lamar
3. Watson
4. Rodgers
5. McCaffrey

Low key candidate...Jimmy Garoppolo if 9ers keep winning

this is pretty much how i would rank it.

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Russell has been fantastic but I think McCaffrey deserves the MVP more up to this point.

He's been by far the best RB in football which is a stupidly stacked position and is pretty much single-handedly carrying a team on his back.

Rookie QB and bad defense? 5-3

Leads the league in almost every statistical category for an RB.


2nd best player in football aside from Mahomes.


no doubt mccaffrey is having an amazing year, but in order for a RB to win mvp against qbs playing as well as russ and lamar they probably need to be like 2006 LT level of insane... that said I would love it if cmc does win mvp because that would probably mean great things for my ish fantasy team

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Old 11-09-2019, 09:00 AM   #8
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He's on pace for a 2500 total yard/25 TD season. That's as good as Marshall Faulk.

I haven't looked at the pace numbers of Russ but he's not having a historically great season, right?

McCaffery is. That narrative will play strong for MVP votes if he continues.
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Old 11-09-2019, 09:03 AM   #9
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I checked out Russell's numbers. It's safe to say a 40 TD to 2 INT season would be considered right up there with the best of them.

Two potential all time seasons going on at QB and RB currently.
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Old 11-14-2019, 02:47 PM   #10
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MVP through week 10:

1: Lamar Jackson
2: Russell Wilson
3: CMC
4: Cousins
5: Dak

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DPOY:

1: Minkah Fitzpatrick
2: TJ Watt
3: Nick Bosa
4: Joey Bosa
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Russel Wilson should obviously be ahead of Lamar
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Old 11-14-2019, 10:16 PM   #12
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Obviously not.

Lamar destroyed what was up to that point a historic defense (they still could be) and he won against Wilson and outplayed him earlier in the year.

Russell doesn't have a feather in his cap like Lamar does vs the Patriots, nor did he beat him when they matched up.

Stat wise, Lamar is going to account for roughly 4900 yards and 40 TDS while Russell will account for roughly the same yardage and 42 TDS with a few less turnovers.

Put all that together and nothing is "obviously" Russell.
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Obviously not.

Lamar destroyed what was up to that point a historic defense (they still could be) and he won against Wilson and outplayed him earlier in the year.

Russell doesn't have a feather in his cap like Lamar does vs the Patriots, nor did he beat him when they matched up.

Stat wise, Lamar is going to account for roughly 4900 yards and 40 TDS while Russell will account for roughly the same yardage and 42 TDS with a few less turnovers.

Put all that together and nothing is "obviously" Russell.

I dont have any problem with ranking Lamar over Russell, but I will say this...

The best QB the Patriots had faced prior to Lamar was Baker Mayfield or Josh Allen... yes the defensive numbers for the Pats have been insane, but its hard to know how good they really are when they have barely faced any competent offenses.

As far as cap feathers go for Russell, giving the Niners their first loss of the season (on the road) is not too bad...although like the Patriots, the Niners schedule had been laughably easy prior to facing the Seahawks, so who knows how good they really are.

Right now I would probably have Wilson as the leader in terms of raw stats and coming thru in high pressure situations, but Jackson as the leader based on the "eye-test" or whatever you want to call it... Jackson just pops off the screen, he looks like he is operating on a different level than everyone else on the field and he has been the most terrifying offensive player in the NFL to play against thus far this year. What Mahomes was for passing last year, Jackson is for running this year... truly a revolutionary talent.

In addition to Jacksons insane physical skills, I have been really impressed with the mental side of Jacksons game. He barely ever has negative plays, which is very impressive considering his style of play and the fact that he has only started 16 games in his career... also his self-confidence and desire to win seem as good as anyone in the league. That said, Wilsons mental game is obviously top-tier as well.

My 2019 dream team would have Jackson as the QB for the first 3 quarters, with Wilson coming in to close things out in the 4th.

BTW: I got a nice little chuckle out of the fact that you have Dak in your top 5 while Primetime does not

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Old 11-15-2019, 11:39 AM   #14
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You literally just mentioned that Wilson will end up with more tds and yards

I donít give a **** about narrative. Wilson just beat the other undefeated team in the league and Idgaf

Heís the MVP
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Old 11-15-2019, 01:42 PM   #15
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You may not care about Narrative, but the voters do.

Wilson didn't play well in the win, didn't he throw a late game pick? Didn't the 49'ers miss a relatively easy game winning FG?

They won, but it wasn't because of Wilson.
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