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Old 08-27-2008, 04:52 PM   #16
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Im glad you guys think im an ignorant american that dosent follow any international ball. I have watched every fiba game with spain in it since pau gasol first began playing on the grizzlies. It wasnt just the usa that was driving past him. The guys from greece, china, and lithuania, Even the guys fropm germany gave him problems.
There's no way you could have.
I know that for a fact that theres no possible way you could watch Spain's FIBA games in the USA because few are even internationally televised allowing for you to watch Live on the internet.

Also Ricky's been on the Senior Squad in Spain for what just the Olympics really.

& also you can't judge a player off of FIBA games,It's a different style of play from in the NBA.

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True this is the first time I have gotten to see him play. But at this point I am gonna have to say that he is compareable to luke ridnour. Meaning he has a good first step, can make flashy passes, rebounds ok, can shoot ok, and plays passing lanes well. But im sorry man everything I have read and seen so far points to the fact that he is lacking in the defensive area.
Anyways Rubio is head above heels better than Luke Ridnour in terms of ballhandling,passing,leadership,finishing at the basket,& defense.Ridnour is a better outside shooter.

Ricky's questionable man defense or his ability to play on ball doesn't matter if he can make up for it by being a threat in the passing lanes which makes just as much of an impact.
If you consider guys who are good on defense as only those who are good on ball defenders then you need to understand the game of basketball.

I go who can bring havoc in the passing lanes is much better than a guy who plays good man defense for the fact that the guy who plays good on ball will pick up more fouls.
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Old 08-28-2008, 06:28 PM   #17
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There's no way you could have.
I know that for a fact that theres no possible way you could watch Spain's FIBA games in the USA because few are even internationally televised allowing for you to watch Live on the internet.

Also Ricky's been on the Senior Squad in Spain for what just the Olympics really.

& also you can't judge a player off of FIBA games,It's a different style of play from in the NBA.


Anyways Rubio is head above heels better than Luke Ridnour in terms of ballhandling,passing,leadership,finishing at the basket,& defense.Ridnour is a better outside shooter.

Ricky's questionable man defense or his ability to play on ball doesn't matter if he can make up for it by being a threat in the passing lanes which makes just as much of an impact.
If you consider guys who are good on defense as only those who are good on ball defenders then you need to understand the game of basketball.

I go who can bring havoc in the passing lanes is much better than a guy who plays good man defense for the fact that the guy who plays good on ball will pick up more fouls.

Ok first off I have nba tv. Which plays fiba games every summer. Not to mention it has a half hour international special every day recaping the games played the previous night. So please dont tell me what I do or dont watch.

Secondly do you really only want a guy who plays the pasing lanes? Yes he might the ocassional steal or strip a ball. But the other 85% of the game. His man will be getting into the paint and causing all kinds of problems for the rest of his team. So he might get a few buckets a game by playing like that. But in turn he wil give up 10-15 points by not playing honest defense.

You would really rather have a player that plays out of position and only in the passing lanes. As opposed to having a guy like battier, artest, prince, or a bruce bowen. Next your gonna tell me that you think that iverson is good at defense.
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Old 08-28-2008, 06:31 PM   #18
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Here this is two nba draft scouting report on ricky rubio.

9- Ricky RubioSpain
Birthday:10/21/1990
Position:Point GuardClass:N/AHt:6-3Wt:180Int TeamKV
JoventutHometown:El Masnou, Spain
High School:N/A2007
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94NBA Comparison: Walt Frazier/Steve Nash
Strengths: The problem with Ricky Rubio is: Where to start? He has more skill than anyone in his worldwide age group. Including but not limited to: Defense, anticipation, intelligence, ball handling, PG (vision) creation, rhythm, coordination, ambition, scoring and personality ... He is practically ambidextrous, has good foot speed (not great) and excellent body control ... With excellent use of speed/ direction changes he excels both on the open court and the half court game as a set up or assist man ... Catch and shoot is quick and clean ... A smart rebounder, he gets optimum position under both boards ... Voted the best Euro young player for 2007, he has only acceptable shooting %'s both from 2 and 3 points. His shooting delivery is consistent with no waste of time or extra movement. I ve thought about it a lot and think the best comparison to past-present NBA players would be the best of both Walt Clyde Frazier and Steve Nash ... At 17 years old he is already a feared and well respected ACB and Euro-level competitor. He is a warrior and plays all out, all the time. On top of that knows how to flop (with this kid it's an art form) ... He's also a master at getting to the FT line, where he knocs down a high rate (80%) ... Adventurous in his passing, he has two skills; Seeing and when necessary, creation of passing lanes. Excellent. Statistically he is a gem and he has personality. He leads. He knows how to win ... He will become a household name in many more households.

Weaknesses: His outside shooting needs to continue to improve ... Maturity will bring the necessary leg strength and stability to shoot with better consistency ... His ratio of Assists/ Turnovers needs improvement, time and experience being the only necessary elements required. Related to this: His youthful inexperience sometimes gets him caught out of control when competing with physically stronger men at the highest Euro level ... He is thin but will fill out as his frame is good.

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Strengths: This floppy-haired kids keeps getting better and better. Despite possible physical/athletic limitations, Rubio will have no trouble adjusting to the speed of NBA action because of his basketball IQ. He displays an uncanny court sense, playing three steps ahead of everyone else on the floor. He has the same sense of timing that Larry Bird had. He seems to know what's going to happen when the ball does. However, his style of play is extremely relaxed and confident because the game comes so easily to him.

Rubio lulls the defense to sleep and then suddenly uses his speed when they defense isn't ready, using his gear-shift very quickly. When slashing or breaking down his defender his footwork is excellent and seems so natural, and he really understands body angles making him quite slippery. He has years of experience getting by multiple defenders, and seems to have moves ready for when a second or third defender comes his way. He is an excellent ball handler who has perfected the behind the back dribble, which is currently his most reliable weapon when facing quicker and more athletic defenders. He can use this move when bringing the ball up the court or when getting into the lane. He is very creative and regularly makes magical plays nobody has ever seen before. His decision-making ability is on an elite level right now. He has superior court vision, and regularly whips passes one-handed cross court that are sharp and accurate. He has the ability to fake-out entire defenses to make the kinds of passes for easy baskets that only the elite players make.

Ricky likes to use his body to post up his defender on the block, and is very efficient with his moves going to the basket from this position. He also works hard to help his team on the glass because it enables him to make long passes over the top of the defense on fast breaks or to take rebounds coast-to-coast himself.

Defensively, he can be intimidating because he uses his great length, big hands, sense of timing and quick reflexes to disrupt passes and take away dribbling mistakes. He is around every loose ball, and seems to have a sense of knowing when to make big plays defensively to change the complexion of the game.

Weaknesses: Rubio will have trouble guarding point guards in the NBA. His lateral quickness is decent but not great. Against top competition, he does have some mental lapses at times. He often backs off his defender and uses his instincts to play position defense, but in the rare moments when he guesses wrong, he can get beat on simple plays like a back-door cut, or his defender will easily dribble right by him. Some of his height and vision advantage is lost when longer players guard him. He doesn't jump at all on his jump shot and could stand to change his shooting mechanics a little. This will be a problem when playing against elite athletes.

He is a big star at a young age, and already shows signs of having a big ego. He often creates contact and then expects LeBron James-type calls from the referees, and can get frustrated when he doesn't receive them. He has his own warm-up routine, and is often seen off on his own and not with the team, (although there are no reports of him not being a team player). The type of fame and success that he's had at such a young means it will be that much more important for him to continue to working on his game, improve his skills and not settle for just being as talented as he is now.

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Old 08-29-2008, 01:12 PM   #19
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