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Old 10-23-2013, 03:04 AM   #1
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Default Ocean Acidification/Neutralization

Ocean "acidification".



Ocean "neutralization" would be the correct term, it just doesn't sound scary enough.

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Old 10-23-2013, 03:09 AM   #2
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I for one welcome a warmer, wetter global climate, whether human induced or not.
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Old 10-23-2013, 03:12 AM   #3
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i had to look it up

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Ocean acidification is the name given to the ongoing decrease in the pH of the Earth's oceans, caused by the uptake of anthropogenic carbon dioxide (CO2) from the atmosphere. About 30–40% of the carbon dioxide released by humans into the atmosphere dissolves into the oceans, rivers and lakes. To maintain chemical equilibrium, some of it reacts with the water to form carbonic acid. Some of these extra carbonic acid molecules react with a water molecule to give a bicarbonate ion and a hydronium ion, thus increasing the ocean's "acidity" (H+ ion concentration). Between 1751 and 1994 surface ocean pH is estimated to have decreased from approximately 8.25 to 8.14, representing an increase of almost 30% in H+ ion concentration in the world's oceans.
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You're f*cking stupid.
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Old 10-23-2013, 03:23 AM   #5
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i had to look it up

Perversion of basic science.

Look, when going from alkaline towards more neutral it's called "neutralization". It's not "acidification" until it actually goes from neutral into acidic.

They could've just called it what it actually is, but, like I said, it doesn't sound scary enough.

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Old 10-23-2013, 03:32 AM   #6
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Perversion of basic science.

When moving from an alkaline position towards more neutral it's called "neutralization".

They could've just called it what it actually is, but, like I said, it doesn't sound scary enough.
its all nothing but a marketing tool, and a way to control the masses.

Also, with this new Carbon tax bullshit Obama was trying to pass,its another thing the government can tax you for.


Nothing gets you spending like the end of the world!
"If you dont buy this expensive electric car, the world will end. If you don't pay your carbon tax, the world will end and the polar bears will die."


No one will admit this, and they will get angry and call me stupid, but this is no different from what the Popes used to do to the peasantry back in the middle ages. They'd make up some doomsday theory and tell everyone that God would destroy their world if the people didn't pay a tax to the Pope. Or he'd sell passes to heaven. Sure enough, the idiots payed, just like they're paying now.
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Old 10-23-2013, 03:41 AM   #7
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its all nothing but a marketing tool, and a way to control the masses.

Also, with this new Carbon tax bullshit Obama was trying to pass,its another thing the government can tax you for.


Nothing gets you spending like the end of the world!
"If you dont buy this expensive electric car, the world will end. If you don't pay your carbon tax, the world will end and the polar bears will die."


No one will admit this, and they will get angry and call me stupid, but this is no different from what the Popes used to do to the peasantry back in the middle ages. They'd make up some doomsday theory and tell everyone that God would destroy their world if the people didn't pay a tax to the Pope. Or he'd sell passes to heaven. Sure enough, the idiots payed, just like they're paying now.

What we need to do is adapt to warmer climate, if it comes, and take full advantage of it instead of wasting resources.

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Old 10-23-2013, 04:00 AM   #8
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You're f*cking stupid.

Hey, man, no need to get your panties in a bunch just because I want to take the alarmism out of the equation and have people adopt proper terminology.

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Old 10-23-2013, 04:55 AM   #9
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Just to clarify, I'm not denying climate change or the fact that humans have influence on it, I'm just not buying into the doom alarmism.
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Old 10-23-2013, 04:57 AM   #10
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Perversion of basic science.

Look, when going from alkaline towards more neutral it's called "neutralization". It's not "acidification" until it actually goes from neutral into acidic.

They could've just called it what it actually is, but, like I said, it doesn't sound scary enough.
i’m pretty sure it’s called acidification because that is the overall trend... becoming more acidic over time.


it would be nice if you read up on this basic issue. there are some very serious problems caused by OA, such as a number of critical lifeforms under attack as well as various unwanted species proliferating and causing another range of problems.
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Old 10-23-2013, 06:06 AM   #11
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Old 10-23-2013, 11:29 AM   #12
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Hey, man, no need to get your panties in a bunch just because I want to take the alarmism out of the equation and have people adopt proper terminology.

Neutralization implies once the pH is neutral everything stops. Acidification implies that the shit is getting more acidic and will continue to do so. Currently it is both getting nearer to neutral, and becoming more acidic; but a neutral pH is not the baseline at which the acidification will stop.

They're using a proper term.
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Neutralization implies once the pH is neutral everything stops. Acidification implies that the shit is getting more acidic and will continue to do so. Currently it is both getting nearer to neutral, and becoming more acidic; but a neutral pH is not the baseline at which the acidification will stop.

They're using a proper term.
This. That is the way we would use these terms in the manufacturing world working with formulations.
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Old 10-23-2013, 01:28 PM   #14
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What we need to do is adapt to warmer climate, if it comes, and take full advantage of it instead of wasting resources.
hard to adapt when half the world will be underwater.
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The technical term is acidification. It's used in limnology, oceanography, soil science, pretty much any basic field. No one says neutralization you dipshit. Furthermore, it's a pretty significant problem that's disrupting life cycles of several organisms and the systems that depend on them. Mainly because certain "life cycle cues" are dependent on previous levels of acidity and now they're not happening in more acidic environments; especially those that have more acute symptoms beyond the mild levels of acidity stated in an earlier post.
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