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Old 10-06-2008, 06:32 PM   #1
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Default Why are there so many European Teams???

There are 52 teams in the top tier league's of Spain, Greece, Italy and Russia. Those are probably the 4 best league's outside of the NBA. But besides those league's you also have France, Israel, and Turkey which also have good leagues. All together there are probably over 200+ "top division" teams. Now granted 95% of those teams are terrible relative to the top competition. But that is a huge watering down of talent.

It reminds me of the NCAA where you have a few power confrences, some mid majors, great teams in crap confrences (Gonzaga, arguably Memphis, etc.) and then the rest is relatively speaking terrible. I realize it works for the NCAA. It just seems goofy to run a professional league that way, (with such a huge drop in talent from top to bottom).

This is why I doubt Europe will ever be a serious competitor to the NBA, the talent level in the NBA is just so much higher. Guys like Trajan Langdon are superstars in Europe, because the talent is so watered down that they only have to play a few games against really tough competition.
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Old 10-06-2008, 08:02 PM   #2
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Default Re: Why are there so many European Teams???

I don't know if you're European and follow European championships. If you don't, don't mix Europe with Euroleague. The Euroleague is intercontinental, the rest of the championships are domestic and obviously less competitive. In N.America there's no such problem, since it only has 2 countries and has a well-structured basketball, but in Europe, where there are both domestic and intercontinental championships, you can't just disband hundreds of smaller teams (and send thousands of players to retirement) or create weaker leagues for them. Historically, even some of today's weak teams have been competing against the big guys and winning championships. There are a lot of legendary squads like these. Best example, IMO, is Varese, the only team to appear in 10 consecutive European Championship finals, won 5 of them and has a lot of domestic titles. Nowadays, Varese is just an ordinary Italian Serie A team. If they had leagues like in the USA, Varese would be no "Euro-NBA" material. Yet, we're talking about a legendary team which still exists.

BTW, there's no real danger of watering down the league, because the best teams in Europe are usually considerably richer than the rest. Some teams may break the mold (like Kimki), but they manage to increase competition if they bring good money to the table. Kimki, for example, acquired Delfino and Nachbar (?) from the NBA.

Even the USA have minor championships, like the CBA, NBDL, ABA, etc. It doesn't take anything away from the NBA nor do these leagues water down talent.
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Old 10-09-2008, 09:15 AM   #3
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Default Re: Why are there so many European Teams???

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There are 52 teams in the top tier league's of Spain, Greece, Italy and Russia. Those are probably the 4 best league's outside of the NBA. But besides those league's you also have France, Israel, and Turkey which also have good leagues. All together there are probably over 200+ "top division" teams. Now granted 95% of those teams are terrible relative to the top competition. But that is a huge watering down of talent.

It reminds me of the NCAA where you have a few power confrences, some mid majors, great teams in crap confrences (Gonzaga, arguably Memphis, etc.) and then the rest is relatively speaking terrible. I realize it works for the NCAA. It just seems goofy to run a professional league that way, (with such a huge drop in talent from top to bottom).

This is why I doubt Europe will ever be a serious competitor to the NBA, the talent level in the NBA is just so much higher. Guys like Trajan Langdon are superstars in Europe, because the talent is so watered down that they only have to play a few games against really tough competition.
Are you being serious?? Usa is one country,add Canada to it(toronto) you have 2!Europe I must tell you is not a country it's a continent and has over 30 countries!!Each country has every right to have their national league.You are getting confused,the euroleague is not like the NBA(although unfortunately it is looking more like it) it is an intercontinental competition were top teams of all the national leagues can take part.Here the teams are proper teams that represent their cities and not some multi-million franchise that can decide to move the team and therefore break all the supporters' hearts from seattle to oklahoma,or new orleans to utah etc etc .
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Old 01-24-2009, 03:47 AM   #4
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Default Re: Why are there so many European Teams???

easy
it's because europe is one big continent with many contries inside
while NBA is represent only one country, USA
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Old 01-24-2009, 08:02 PM   #5
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Guys like Trajan Langdon are superstars in Europe, because the talent is so watered down that they only have to play a few games against really tough competition.

Trajan Langdon is not a superstar in Europe. Star player? Yes. Superstar? Not even close.
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Old 01-25-2009, 07:50 PM   #6
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Trajan Langdon is not a superstar in Europe. Star player? Yes. Superstar? Not even close.

Trajan Langdon is more of a good player than a star in europe. The same would be true if Langdon played in the nba.
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Old 01-29-2009, 09:21 PM   #7
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USA= 1 country
Europe= 49 countries

Go figure.
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Old 02-16-2009, 02:41 AM   #8
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