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Old 11-04-2008, 01:35 AM   #391
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Default Re: Nuggets trade Allen Iverson to Pistons for Chauncey Billups, McDyess

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why not? the nuggets with chauncey are better than the pistons with ai.

I don't know about that. If Iverson can learn to play with Hamilton, Detroit is going to be dangerous. Even before this trade, you could see the difference in the way Detroit has played under Curry compared to the way they were playing under Saunders. The Pistons have so much depth is ridiculous, Detroit was better than Denver before and after the trade.
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Old 11-04-2008, 01:38 AM   #392
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If Dyess negotiates a buyout and comes back to the Pistons than this is an awesome deal. Otherwise, I don't like it so much. But.....

-______/Brown
-Maxiell/Amir
-Prince/Herrman (if he resigns, otherwise sharpe)
-Hamilton/Afflalo
-Stuckey/Bynum

+34 mil =

So I don't think this "the missing piece" but it makes the team a lot younger and a lot richer for the future. Don't forget the second rounders from Toronto and Minnesota that will fill up the roster spots and add some youth and potential. Yup, the future looks bright.
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Old 11-04-2008, 01:40 AM   #393
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Default Re: Nuggets trade Allen Iverson to Pistons for Chauncey Billups, McDyess

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why not? the nuggets with chauncey are better than the pistons with ai.

Obviously he doesn't think so. I don't think most others think that's true either.
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Old 11-04-2008, 01:47 AM   #394
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He's never suiting up for the Nuggets; he'll just retire as someone already said.

Do the Nugz have to pay out this contract if he retires?
Because I dont see McDyess throwing away those dollars.
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Old 11-04-2008, 01:52 AM   #395
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Default Re: Nuggets trade Allen Iverson to Pistons for Chauncey Billups, McDyess

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They should have just took Kwame Brown.

Kwame is not eligible for trade until some time in December…


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Do the Nugz have to pay out this contract if he retires?
Because I dont see McDyess throwing away those dollars.

Usually the player and the team come to an agreement to a certain figure.

McDyess would forfeit a little over 50% or something like 6.8million(not sure on exact amount off the top of my head).
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Old 11-04-2008, 02:03 AM   #396
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just seems a bit b!tchy by McDyess.
Why not go to a talented Denver team with Chauncey and try to make a run at it? I'm sure it wouldn't be that bad.
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Old 11-04-2008, 02:12 AM   #397
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Default Re: Nuggets trade Allen Iverson to Pistons for Chauncey Billups, McDyess

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just seems a bit b!tchy by McDyess.
Why not go to a talented Denver team with Chauncey and try to make a run at it? I'm sure it wouldn't be that bad.

In a way it kind of is… but maybe McDyess is already settled in the area (Detroit) and was looking to finish his career here. He may have some future with the Pistons front office possibly too? Only Antonio knows and understands his intentions…

Players have force their hand many times:

Webber in Philadelphia
Cassell in LAC
Stoudimire in Memphis
Elden Campbell in NJN
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Old 11-04-2008, 02:14 AM   #398
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just seems a bit b!tchy by McDyess.
Why not go to a talented Denver team with Chauncey and try to make a run at it? I'm sure it wouldn't be that bad.

He has said he doesn't want to be a ring-chaser. And I think he felt comfortable in Detroit, it's where he revived his career and he just seemed happy here.
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Old 11-04-2008, 02:17 AM   #399
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Larry Brown?

Where are you!!!
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Old 11-04-2008, 02:37 AM   #400
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why not? the nuggets with chauncey are better than the pistons with ai.

Don't be stupid, of course they aren't. Pistons actually play defense and now have a big time scorer to go along with very soild role players and good depth.
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Old 11-04-2008, 03:43 AM   #401
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Just on ESPN, McDyess will be back with the Pistons after his contract gets bought out.
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Old 11-04-2008, 03:49 AM   #402
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Pistons get Iverson now, LeBron later?
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Make no mistake: Detroit and Dumars are officially in hot pursuit of James – maybe even the favorite now – and it promises to be a long, agonizing two years for the Cavaliers.
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The trade with Denver to make an unhappy Iverson happier just further imbeds the Detroit franchise deeper into James’ agent, Leon Rose, and advisor, William Wesley. Just as they represent James, they rep Iverson.
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As one rival GM said Monday, “Damn it, I am afraid Joe has this whole thing wired. He’s got everything in place to pull this off.”
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For the flawed franchises falling over themselves to get under the salary cap for 2010, the most ingenious plan promises to start out of the NBA’s brightest executive mind.
Interesting perspective. Also of interest to me is how completely different Dumars and Isiah's post-playing careers have been. Zeke was better on the floor, but Joe-D smokes him in everything else.
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Old 11-04-2008, 06:31 AM   #403
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its interesting to see where things will wind up at 2010
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Old 11-04-2008, 09:25 AM   #404
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Default Re: Nuggets trade Allen Iverson to Pistons for Chauncey Billups, McDyess

Detroit has very quietly gone 9-2 so far (6-2 pre-season) (3-0 season)...and no one has played big minutes.

I expect AI will average around 30 minutes most nights with Detroit...like everyone else.

He's going to have a role to play, in a much larger picture than he's used to, and that means his name, will not always be the first one up on the screen.

We'll have to wait, to see if he's up to being on a 10 headed team....I sure hope he is.
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Old 11-04-2008, 10:51 AM   #405
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They traded Billups & McDyess for a scorer.

I would be surprised if Detroit is better because of it.
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