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Old 09-13-2006, 06:51 PM   #46
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Roy Jones was probably the best non-heavyweight I ever saw. He just had the bad luck to be fighting weak fighters in his prime, similar to Tyson. He didn't have the competition around that guys like Leonard, Hearns and Hagler did.

I would also put Duran up there with those guys but he was a little before my time so I really didn't see him in his prime. But from what I understand he was scary.

I just don't think you should penalize someone who came up at a time when competition was weak.
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Old 09-13-2006, 08:12 PM   #47
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Can anybody list one controversial fight that Tyson won? I can think of over a half dozen controversial fights Ali won from pre to post prime. Moreover, Ali lost two tough fights at or near his prime. Maybe some of you ain't got the email yet, but Ali, like Tyson, is beatable.

So, again, suddenly after Foreman, Ali shoots way up to be talked as the best ever. Is the criteria for greatness getting the crap kicked out of you and then pulling out the fight? Maybe the Foreman upgrade is just part of a delayed reaction to upsetting Liston, or maybe the heroic effort against Frazier. I just find Ali's career to be very inconsistant for such great acclaim.
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Old 09-14-2006, 01:08 PM   #48
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This is the best boxer that ever lived.....
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