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Old 12-29-2008, 02:17 AM   #31
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But look at who made it to each one. The Celtics and Lakers come from two really strong markets. Now if it was the Cubs vs. Yankees or Cubs vs. Red Sox it would have blown away the NBA finals.

From what I have read, this years Finals outdrew the last Yankees World Series. But, regardless, what they draw in the US is really nothing compared to global ratings where the NBA blows everyone else away. Also, as I read earlier, NBA sales, jerseys, etc...are the best both in the US and in the Global market. The NBA also has a far greater internet following, as they are googled more than any US sport.

Point is, these are all revenue sources for the NBA. According to Wiki, the NBA was getting higher ratings in the 90s for regular season games, then MLB overtook them early this decade, and now the NBA is only slightly below MLB and, according to the ESPN article I was reading, the NBA is seeing a dramatic increase in ratings over the last two years.

Honestly, MLB just went through a Golden Era, it is the first time in a long time that casual fans were into it, mainly because of ESPN hyping the hell out of the Yankees/Red Sox rivalry. The NBA was at its lowest after the lockout and Jordans retirement yet it stood strong and, now, appears poised to enter another Golden Era similar to the mid 80s to late 90s era which placed the NBA #2 in the US.

But, again, this is all purely in the US. When you factor in the Global Market, MLB is nowhere close to the NBA and more than likely will never be. While MLB has been working to fix itself in the US, David Stern has been working to make the NBA the #1 league in the entire universe and it is.

If I were a betting man Id say that by 2015 the NBA will be more popular than it has ever been and a clear #2 to the NFL in the States and the runaway Global leader.
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Old 12-29-2008, 02:18 AM   #32
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The NFL is in a league of it's own when it comes to popularity here in the U.S. Even baseball doesn't have a chance.
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Old 12-29-2008, 02:21 AM   #33
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I don't really think tv ratings can be looked at too closely to find the "popularity" of sports.

A lot of NBA teams struggle to sell 16,000 tix for a game now, while anything under 20,000 for an MLB game is silly. So if the nba is watched more on tv, but more people are attending baseball games, doesn't it even out a bit?
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Old 12-29-2008, 02:22 AM   #34
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The Pistons always struggle in this town for popularity

The Lions get more ink and airtime than any other team…and they are the biggest joke in ALL of professional sports.

Red Wings are probably the second biggest draw followed by the Tigers. Since Hockey and Baseball are at different times of the year it works out for those franchises.

The Pistons have always played second fiddle to the Hockeys. Red Wings got more ink than the Pistons when they won fucking championship for fucks sake…

I have not watched a Lions game for 5-6 years but I could tell you about everything about the team because its all over the local sports networks and since I listen to alot of sports radio, its on the radio damn near 24/7 Heck, the one radio station barley has any Pistons talk and the guys on 97.1 are a bunch of idiots.

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Old 12-29-2008, 02:26 AM   #35
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Speaking of the NHL and the Blackhawks is anyone else excited for the Blackhawks vs. Red Wings game at Wrigley Field this Thursday? That's going to be awesome to see.
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Old 12-29-2008, 02:46 AM   #36
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Soccer is even less popular. But worldwide...

#1 Soccer
#2 Basketball

Hmm, I wonder if there´s a relation...
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Old 12-29-2008, 03:51 AM   #37
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The NHL isn't more popular in America, but it's more popular in literally every single other country both the NBA and NHL are shown.

There isn't another country in the world outside of china that follows the NBA (like they do in North America). Yet if you go to Finland, Sweden, Russia or the Czech Republic , not only do they follow their own hockey leagues, but they all watch hockey religiously. The only sport more popular being Soccer.

Why do you think hockey makes so much money yet nobody in America watches it? It's all money from Canada and the viewership overseas. The Russian Hockey league alone makes all of the European basketball leagues look like it's run by ****ing amateurs. Also, why do you think international hockey is so competitive? You have many players from all over the world who are all equally as good as each other. It's not like basketball where Europeans are only now starting to become good, but still don't match Americans.

Also take note that the NBA is declining. Less people watching it on TV, less people in attendance at games, less new coverage, less money being made. While the NHL is beating the NBA in attendance, and is gaining in popularity. Being the second fastest growing sport in America next to only Mixed Martial Arts.

I love the NBA and basketball, but it is in trouble. It's declining in North America big time. The only viable option for them to expand is into China. The European markets can barely keep a Euro team because of the lack of interest. The NHL will be expanding into Russia, Sweden, Czech Republic and Finland before long, all of which could house very valuable teams.

The NBA won't be like the NFL where the NFL can stay in America forever due to it's GIGANTIC wealth and popularity. The NBA, much like the NHL will be forced to expand internationally. The problem being the International markets are not developed enough in terms of basketball talent or interest to house teams. Outside of China the only two countries with stable enough economies to have an NBA team would be Italy and Spain. Problem being, Soccer to them is like the Football to Americans, and will always, forever, overshadow basketball.

ON a side note. the NHL opened up the season in Europe this year and set records for the most viewed sport on TV and the largest attendance for a sport that wasn't soccer in the countries involved.

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Old 12-29-2008, 04:02 AM   #38
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Soccer is even less popular. But worldwide...

#1 Soccer
#2 Basketball

Hmm, I wonder if there´s a relation...

No. Cricket, Rugby, etc.. are all more popular then basketball. So is hockey, because hockey includes field hockey, and field hockey is more popular then basketball, as it's played by billions of people (main sport in India and many asian countries).
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Old 12-29-2008, 04:19 AM   #39
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maybe because of things like this:
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=114426

Apparently the NBA is no longer a team sport anymore. It's all about individuals. IMO
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Old 12-29-2008, 04:25 AM   #40
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The NHL isn't more popular in America, but it's more popular in literally every single other country both the NBA and NHL are shown.

(apart from North America) Only Scandanavia and some parts of Eastern Europe pay any attention to Ice Hockey. Don't act like it's a global icon. And I wonder why all those Icy nations play Ice Hockey, I wonder.

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There isn't another country in the world outside of china that follows the NBA (like they do in North America).

And no country follows the Serie A as much as Italy, even in their golden era in the 90's.

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It's not like basketball where Europeans are only now starting to become good, but still don't match Americans.

Even though that statement isn't factually accurate, I will say this - I'm a member of a European Football Forum (Soccer) and in the Off topic section there's a thread titled "NBA 08/09 season thread" which has over 3000 posts so far with so little of the season gone. There isn't even a thread about Hockey.

Them being "good" or not has nothing to do with the popularity of the two sports. Greece and Turkey don't have the squad to match the States, so are you gonna tell me they aren't huge ball loving nations? Or more laughably that Hockey is bigger there?
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Old 12-29-2008, 04:35 AM   #41
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No. Cricket, Rugby, etc.. are all more popular then basketball. So is hockey, because hockey includes field hockey, and field hockey is more popular then basketball, as it's played by billions of people (main sport in India and many asian countries).

On a Gobal scale? Hell no. Only commonwealth nations play Rugby and Cricket, where as Basketball has a more consistent supporter base throughout the world.

Hockey? Australia is the best Field Hockey nation in the world. It isn't televised, nor does it have a professional league. No one gives a **** about it - In Year 10 we had two options for spring sports competition, it was between Field Hockey and Basketball. EVERY boy chose Basketball, every spot was filled. It got to the point kids wanted to referee the games then be forced into Field Hockey.

And why are you grouping Field and Ice Hockey together? Enthusiasts of both codes will tell you their both different and ditest each code.
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Old 12-29-2008, 04:41 AM   #42
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Maybe it applies to America.

But to the world, NBA has a brighter--by far--future than NFL, NHL and baseball combined.

People in Asia and Europe will never give a crap about football. But basketball will grow. Bball is easily be the second biggest sport in the world.

Trust me, the NBA is fine. They're huge all around the world... while 95 out of 100 people in Hong Kong (where I'm at right now) wouldn't know who the hell Tom Brady is.


Amen. The Bucks@Rockets (Yi vs Yao) drew more viewers worldwide then the any mlb/nfl/nascar-event has ever had. You wanna know how the owners feel about that?
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Old 12-29-2008, 04:48 AM   #43
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The NHL isn't more popular in America, but it's more popular in literally every single other country both the NBA and NHL are shown.

There isn't another country in the world outside of china that follows the NBA (like they do in North America). Yet if you go to Finland, Sweden, Russia or the Czech Republic , not only do they follow their own hockey leagues, but they all watch hockey religiously. The only sport more popular being Soccer.

Why do you think hockey makes so much money yet nobody in America watches it? It's all money from Canada and the viewership overseas. The Russian Hockey league alone makes all of the European basketball leagues look like it's run by ****ing amateurs. Also, why do you think international hockey is so competitive? You have many players from all over the world who are all equally as good as each other. It's not like basketball where Europeans are only now starting to become good, but still don't match Americans.

Also take note that the NBA is declining. Less people watching it on TV, less people in attendance at games, less new coverage, less money being made. While the NHL is beating the NBA in attendance, and is gaining in popularity. Being the second fastest growing sport in America next to only Mixed Martial Arts.

I love the NBA and basketball, but it is in trouble. It's declining in North America big time. The only viable option for them to expand is into China. The European markets can barely keep a Euro team because of the lack of interest. The NHL will be expanding into Russia, Sweden, Czech Republic and Finland before long, all of which could house very valuable teams.

The NBA won't be like the NFL where the NFL can stay in America forever due to it's GIGANTIC wealth and popularity. The NBA, much like the NHL will be forced to expand internationally. The problem being the International markets are not developed enough in terms of basketball talent or interest to house teams. Outside of China the only two countries with stable enough economies to have an NBA team would be Italy and Spain. Problem being, Soccer to them is like the Football to Americans, and will always, forever, overshadow basketball.

ON a side note. the NHL opened up the season in Europe this year and set records for the most viewed sport on TV and the largest attendance for a sport that wasn't soccer in the countries involved.


This just isn´t true. I´m from Sweden and we love to think of our hockeyteams accomplishment as something great when in reality hockey is a really really marginal sport (Sweden, Finland, Slovakia/Chech-republic, Russia, Canada, Usa). However really small sports in Sweden are basketball, volleyball and handball which are 10 times larger in the world then Hockey has ever been.

And to say that no other country follows NBA... well that´s just plain stupid. Even Sweden has had it´s own NBA-show and basketball here is about #15 in number of people playing.

The Russian hockey league will go down in flames and already lots of Swedes are reporting that they´re having trouble getting their paychecks (guess what happens when the oilprice is now below $50). I don´t care how much money the owners have, how many countries are broadcasting from the Russian hockey league?
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Trax, you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.
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Old 12-29-2008, 06:09 AM   #45
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In LA its

1) LAkers
2) Dodgers
3) Angels
4) Raiders
5) Ducks
6) Kings
7) Clippers
8) Chargers

or something like that...


really..... chargers last in LA?..... when they just spanked the **** out of broncos, and al the sports bars were filled today...
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