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Old 12-31-2008, 03:37 PM   #31
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Default Re: Surprisingly, a John Hollinger article that makes perfect sense.

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Just one wing player away...

and who will be the other winger?
where is the backup PG?
Where is the interior rotation? Graham, Hump and Voshkul? Who will play when JO is injured?

Players unhealthy (O'Neal, also Jawal) or getting old (Parker)
Players not playing as expected (Ukic, Solomon, Kapono)
Players not developing quickly enough (Bargnani)
A bunch of bench warmers (Humphries, Voshkul, Adams, Moon, some of the aformentioned)

Too many failures. The future looks cludy now.
If O'Neal were healthy, if Bargnani were consistent, if Ukic played well in the NBA, if Parker were younger, in Humphries were taller if... but that's not the case and I can't see the Raptors as a top team in the East.


those are MINOR issues that exist in all the teams!!!! (lack of depth at certain positions, injuries, etc)

they are minor because they DO NOT occur consistently, but our sucky bargnani and lack of wing happens EVERYGAME

one decent wing player, playing over 30 minutes (over the course of a 48 minutes game) plus not having those 20+ bargnani minutes MAKES A HUGE DIFFERENCE.. and i bet we wouldn't have won at least 5 more games
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Old 12-31-2008, 03:45 PM   #32
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Down the line as in ..... next year ? or in 2010 when bosh is gone .......

I'm pretty sure "down the line.... through the draft" means next year. There enough conceivable players in this years draft I think could step up an immensly help this team next year and show we got younger and have a good framework moving forward for the next four years. As a player I think Bosh would see the bright future and resign if we can do it.
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Old 01-02-2009, 11:19 AM   #33
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those are MINOR issues that exist in all the teams!!!! (lack of depth at certain positions, injuries, etc)

they are minor because they DO NOT occur consistently, but our sucky bargnani and lack of wing happens EVERYGAME

one decent wing player, playing over 30 minutes (over the course of a 48 minutes game) plus not having those 20+ bargnani minutes MAKES A HUGE DIFFERENCE.. and i bet we wouldn't have won at least 5 more games

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those are MINOR issues that exist in all the teams!!!! (lack of depth at certain positions, injuries, etc)

they are minor because they DO NOT occur consistently, but our sucky bargnani and lack of wing happens EVERYGAME

one decent wing player, playing over 30 minutes (over the course of a 48 minutes game) plus not having those 20+ bargnani minutes MAKES A HUGE DIFFERENCE.. and i bet we wouldn't have won at least 5 more games

JO is injured EVERY GAME. Sometimes he can play for 25 minutes, sometimes can't even dress, but his knee is injured anyway. And no replacement at all.

Solomon or Ukic loses any advantage that the starters could have got. That happens EVERY GAME. (look +/- stats)

The team needs two wing player (not just one). Right now, neither Moon, Kapono, Parker or Bargnani are legit starters.

I am not defending Bargnani. Just say the team has big holes in every position. It is much more than a wing player.
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Old 01-02-2009, 03:02 PM   #34
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JO is injured EVERY GAME. Sometimes he can play for 25 minutes, sometimes can't even dress, but his knee is injured anyway. And no replacement at all.

Solomon or Ukic loses any advantage that the starters could have got. That happens EVERY GAME. (look +/- stats)

The team needs two wing player (not just one). Right now, neither Moon, Kapono, Parker or Bargnani are legit starters.

I am not defending Bargnani. Just say the team has big holes in every position. It is much more than a wing player.

The wing position is our greatest hole right now and that has to be resolved before doing anything else. This should be the first thing BC deals with. Forget the rest of the crap for now.
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Old 01-03-2009, 03:51 AM   #35
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one piece added is not gonna cut it
we need the wizard of oz thats what we need
grant joey a brain
grant jamario a heart
grant andrea courage
and grant the raps a better home record because there is no place like home
...and maybe some oil for JO's limbs lol
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Old 01-03-2009, 11:18 AM   #36
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one piece added is not gonna cut it
we need the wizard of oz thats what we need
grant joey a brain
grant jamario a heart
grant andrea courage
and grant the raps a better home record because there is no place like home
...and maybe some oil for JO's limbs lol


We just need a wing .... all those player don't contribute every night anyways and were still in most games still the end ......
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Old 01-03-2009, 11:59 AM   #37
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Default Re: Surprisingly, a John Hollinger article that makes perfect sense.

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one piece added is not gonna cut it
we need the wizard of oz thats what we need
grant joey a brain
grant jamario a heart
grant andrea courage
and grant the raps a better home record because there is no place like home
...and maybe some oil for JO's limbs lol


I LOVE THIS!!!!!!! LOL WIZARD OF OZ!
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Old 01-03-2009, 01:02 PM   #38
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Default Re: Surprisingly, a John Hollinger article that makes perfect sense.

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one piece added is not gonna cut it
we need the wizard of oz thats what we need
grant joey a brain
grant jamario a heart
grant andrea courage
and grant the raps a better home record because there is no place like home
...and maybe some oil for JO's limbs lol

too funny...where can we find that wizard...hmmmmm?
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too funny...where can we find that wizard...hmmmmm?
who knows lol
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Default Re: Surprisingly, a John Hollinger article that makes perfect sense.

I brought this article to the attention of the board at the time it came out.

See link;

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=111837

As I stated originally I agreed wtih some of it as much as I disagreed with other parts of it. Hollinger for the most part has no idea what is actually going on.

Moon a defensive ace!!?? lol recently he has done well but for the most part he has not.

Humphries first big off bench before Bargnani!!?? lol How do you develop a guy who has way more talent and skill when he gets little playing time? As it was at the time O'Neal and Bosh were playing most of the PF & C minutes. Bargnani was not getting alot of time. And to say Bargnani is less of a defender than Moon and Humphries!!?? lol Bargnani since game 1 of the season has played better defense overall than those 2 guys. His defense is way improved since he was drafted.

For the most part Hollinger is an idiot!

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Old 01-05-2009, 01:50 PM   #41
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For the most part Hollinger is an idiot!
which is of course the reason why the thread title says "surprisingly, a John Hollinger article that makes perfect sense."
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