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Old 09-21-2006, 12:35 AM   #46
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It's pretty hard to argue that Dirk makes people around him much better, since he rarely ever creates off the dribble. Perhaps commanding double teams opens things up for his teammates, but the same could be said about any star in the league, including Tracy.

clutch, its not about his ability to draw double teams. its his ability to draw his defender out to the three...leaving the paint open with only one defender instead of two...this makes slashers like stackhouse, howard, and terry more dangerous... avery has figured this out and has exploited it.
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Old 09-21-2006, 12:35 AM   #47
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Ok, I'll stop just b/c you told me so. Out of the Superstar swingman I would rate T-Mac:

1. Kobe
2. Wade
3. LBJ
4. PP
5. Carmelo Anthony

And then you have T-Mac and VC, and a notch below you have Jamison and Richardson.

T-Mac is just to inconsistent for me to like and he has a bad back problem.

As for Dirk, how many big men would you take over him? Duncan, probably. KG, maybe. Brand, no. Dwight Howard, maybe b/c he's younger, but that's probably it. Just face it, Dirk is much more unique and creates bigger mismatches and is why I would take him. T-Mac is just another athletic swingman who's selfish and just scores.
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once tmac can play throughout the season without him crying about quitting or his back hurting then u can say tmac is better.

You cant say a player is better if they never play. It is that simple.
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Remember the Dirk vs. Tmac shootout? Dirk won that.
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once tmac can play throughout the season without him crying about quitting or his back hurting then u can say tmac is better.

You cant say a player is better if they never play. It is that simple.

Hawker, is it your goal in life to write someting stupid in every single thread on ISH?
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Old 09-21-2006, 12:39 AM   #51
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Ok, I'll stop just b/c you told me so. Out of the Superstar swingman I would rate T-Mac:

1. Kobe
2. Wade
3. LBJ
4. PP
5. Carmelo Anthony

And then you have T-Mac and VC, and a notch below you have Jamison and Richardson.

T-Mac is just to inconsistent for me to like and he has a bad back problem.

As for Dirk, how many big men would you take over him? Duncan, probably. KG, maybe. Brand, no. Dwight Howard, maybe b/c he's younger, but that's probably it. Just face it, Dirk is much more unique and creates bigger mismatches and is why I would take him. T-Mac is just another athletic swingman who's selfish and just scores.
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Remember the Dirk vs. Tmac shootout? Dirk won that.
WOW
T-Mac is still a better all around athlete and player
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Dirk > Tmac

Dirk lead his team to the finals, it isn't even fair to compare a perennial first-round-exit to him.
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Dirk > Tmac

Dirk lead his team to the finals, it isn't even fair to compare a perennial first-round-exit to him.
Lead his team to the finals and then choked and failed them
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Lead his team to the finals and then choked and failed them

Oh ye remember when T-Mac went to the finals, oh wait.............
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Oh ye remember when T-Mac went to the finals, oh wait.............
only reason why they even made to the finals was because the Spurs were hurting

Next year they wont get passed the first round
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Oh ye remember when T-Mac went to the finals, oh wait.............

SO?

I guess Dirk did that all himself, right?

He only had the DEEPEST team in the entire league plus the Coach of the Year....

Stop oversimplifying ****, it just makes you look as retarded as you actually are.
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since tmac didnt play all of last season i wont hold that against him....here are their stats from the 04-05 season...

dirk
.459FG% .399threep% .869FT% 26.1 ppg 9.7rpg 3.1 apg 1.24spg 1.53bpg

tmac
.431FG% .326threep% .774FT% 25.7ppg 6.2rpg 5.7apg 1.73spg .67bpg

so...how exactly is tmac a better all around player than dirk?
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since tmac didnt play all of last season i wont hold that against him....here are their stats from the 04-05 season...

dirk
.459FG% .399threep% .869FT% 26.1 ppg 9.7rpg 3.1 apg 1.24spg 1.53bpg

tmac
.431FG% .326threep% .774FT% 25.7ppg 6.2rpg 5.7apg 1.73spg .67bpg

so...how exactly is tmac a better all around player than dirk?

why dont you give us tmac's best season, then come back with your argument.
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LOL @ the Rockets-Mavs Rivalry, people claiming the Mavs won't make it past the first round, wow
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