Kobe tied MJ for the most career game winning shots at 26

[statman32]

Because Kobes list count everything in the last minute while MJs list doesnt count anything above 24 seconds. I doubt that Mj didnt hit any "game winners" from a minute to 24 sec.

ALso missed two more in a Wizards uniform.

[Jacks3]

One of MJ's was him missing the first and hitting the second free throw giving the Bulls a 1 point lead, with time on the clock, which I don't think is a gamewinner.
Some of those on Kobe's list are kind of dubious. Even if you want to count game winners at 30+ secs (one was at 55 secs), the author counts go-ahead shots, #3 wasn't a game winner at all, and one was a 4-pt win (I guess he hit a 4 pointer). Clutch shot does not necessarily = game winner.
Have to set a criteria here first

[Godfather]

Originally Posted by statman32

Because Kobes list count everything in the last minute while MJs list doesnt count anything above 24 seconds. I doubt that Mj didnt hit any "game winners" from a minute to 24 sec.

ALso missed two more in a Wizards uniform.

The Jordan list is horribly organized. I suggest the OP finds a better source and change this thread title.

[xcesswee]

Uh ya that list from MJs isn't organized and i don't think has all of his clutch shots. Where's his one against the lakers to send it into overtime in the finals?

[jrong]

Originally Posted by JJ81

NBA.com's list of MJ's game winners is at 25 but it doesn't include his game winner against the Suns in 2002 when he was playing for the Wizards so thats 26 total.

After tonights game against the Pacers Kobe's got 26. Kobe should have 27 but the one against the Celtics in (2002) when the ball was clearly out of his hands was waived off so Kobe's official total is 26.

MJ's totals: http://www.nba.com/jordan/game_winners.html

Kobe's totals: http://www.dolem.com/kobe_game_winners.htm

Notice Michael Jordan's totals includes FTs, Kobe's doesnt.

Jordan had three gamewinners during his comeback tour with the Wizards:

Suns. Hawks. Cavs.

[xcesswee]

Also, get better sources. Ones coming from a lakers fans and another from a bulls fan, which means they prob both put different criterias in what they considered clutch shots

[JJ81]

I didn't make these lists.

Can't you just accept it as an impressive achievement? Always have to pick holes in anything good Kobe does.

[Psileas]

Kobe tied MJ for the most career game winning shots at 26

First of all, not all of Kobe's 26 game-winning shots were real game-winners. A few of them were just crucial baskets which put his team ahead for good. Second, no-one has ever said that 26 is the all-time leading number. How many did Bird have? Reggie? Jerry West? As long as no-one has provided the all-time data, this will remain an extremely unofficial record.

How many of those are in the NBA Finals?

Poor attempt to hate. Larry Bird has zero, fyi.

[Godfather]

Originally Posted by JJ81

I didn't make these lists.

Can't you just accept it as an impressive achievement? Always have to pick holes in anything good Kobe does.

You are an idiot...One of the articles is from 2000 (Jordan's) and the other is up to date.

Maybe you just can't accept Jordan>Kobe and have to instead bring in bull **** posts

[97 bulls]

Originally Posted by Godfather

I don't want to bother making a Jordan list. Anyone with the time and effort want to make one?

I will rep...



Still this is a great accomplishment by Kobe. He is very clutch in the regular season and western conference playoffs.

lol what about the nba finals

[sunsfan1357]

Uh ya that list from MJs isn't organized and i don't think has all of his clutch shots. Where's his one against the lakers to send it into overtime in the finals?

Well then that would defeat the purpose of calling it a GAMEwinner, correct?

[xcesswee]

Originally Posted by JJ81

I didn't make these lists.

Can't you just accept it as an impressive achievement? Always have to pick holes in anything good Kobe does.

I never tried to degrade Kobe, or say LOL KOBE<MJ. I Just said if you're going to bring stats and facts to the table at least get reliable sources. Other than that yes we know kobe is excellent in clutch situations.

[Riker]

Kobe homers doing some hard investigations trying to match up in at least one aspect to the Greatest There Is, Greatest That Ever Will Be

You guys should get at least rewarded for your persistence...

[JJ81]

Originally Posted by Godfather

You are an idiot...One of the articles is from 2000 (Jordan's) and the other is up to date.

Maybe you just can't accept Jordan>Kobe and have to instead bring in bull **** posts

When did I say that Jordan wasn't better than Kobe? You've jumped to that conclusion by yourself.

[JJ81]

Originally Posted by sunsfan1357

Well then that would defeat the purpose of calling it a GAMEwinner, correct?

Exactly