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Old 02-18-2009, 06:36 PM   #61
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Default Re: Aldridge: Bulls to land Salmons, Miller for Nocioni, Gooden

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When will the Bulls pull their heads out of their asses and trade for A legit superstar who will compliment Rose. I would really hate to be a Bulls fan.

Like who? They wanted Amare but Kerr changed his mind. The Bulls can still try and trade Hughes and Kirk Hinrich and then re-sign Ben Gordon and try and sign Carlos Boozer during the offseason.
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Default Re: Aldridge: Bulls to land Salmons, Miller for Nocioni, Gooden

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Brad Miller and John Salmons are, by FAR, the best Bulls players not named Derrick Rose. This is one step closer to breaking up that weak core.

Tyrus Thomas, Kirk Hinrich, Ben Gordon and Luol Deng > John Salmons.
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Old 02-18-2009, 06:39 PM   #63
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Default Re: Aldridge: Bulls to land Salmons, Miller for Nocioni, Gooden

Rose/Kirk
Salmons/BG
Deng/Sefalosha
TT/Noah
Miller/Gray

solid lineup
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Old 02-18-2009, 06:40 PM   #64
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Tyrus Thomas, Kirk Hinrich, Ben Gordon and Luol Deng > John Salmons.
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Default Re: Aldridge: Bulls to land Salmons, Miller for Nocioni, Gooden

Too bad the Hawks didn't get Miller for Zaza and Speedy.

Maybe Zaza will take the most of the opportunity to be more consistent. One night 18 rebounds - outstanding. Next night. 5 fouls, 2 rebounds.
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He's a walking double double. He still has ways to go but he's improved big time in the past month or so. If he keeps this up I see no reason why he can't turn into a regular 20/10 player.
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Big bad Brad back in Chicago? could be a good move. One of those deals that could help both teams.
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He's a walking double double. He still has ways to go but he's improved big time in the past month or so. If he keeps this up I see no reason why he can't turn into a regular 20/10 player.
His recent defensive intensity has impressed me.
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Default Re: Aldridge: Bulls to land Salmons, Miller for Nocioni, Gooden

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I'd say the Bulls improve with this. Brad Miller is way better than Noah, Gray and Drew Gooden. Nocioni is okay but it's not like he was the best player on the team.

Miller
Thomas
Deng
Gordon
Rose

That's a much more solid lineup than what the Bulls have had.

Yeah, that's solid. It's not Celtics territory but playoff worthy. but you did the bulls an injustice when you did not list their 2nd team which is simply AMAZING:

Hinrich
Salmons
Sefolosha
Noah
Gray

nobody can touch that.

and just for the record, Salmons should start at the 2 and BG should move back to 6th man where he's won that award before.

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Too bad the Hawks didn't get Miller for Zaza and Speedy.

Maybe Zaza will take the most of the opportunity to be more consistent. One night 18 rebounds - outstanding. Next night. 5 fouls, 2 rebounds.

LOL @ this clown bringin up ZaZa. That femmy euro is only good for one thing and that's ticking off Kevin Garnett in the playoffs.
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Old 02-18-2009, 07:03 PM   #71
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Sources: Bulls, Kings pull off deal

By Chris Sheridan


The Chicago Bulls and Sacramento Kings have reached tentative agreement on a trade sending Andres Nocioni, Drew Gooden, Michael Ruffin and Cedric Simmons to the Kings for Brad Miller and John Salmons, front-office sources said on Wednesday.


The Kings would then turn around and ship Ruffin to the Portland Trail Blazers for forward Ike Diogu and cash considerations, sources told ESPN's Chris Broussard.

One source told ESPN.com that the Bulls players were pulled off the team bus Wednesday afternoon and were told they had been traded.

"I've been traded before and the way I look at it is it means somebody wants you," Gooden said, according to the Chicago Tribune. "Sacramento has been interested in me for a couple years, so maybe something can work out long-term there. If not, I'm an unrestricted free agent this summer, so I'm auditioning for other teams."

Talks between Sacramento and Chicago moved to an advanced stage this week, as ESPN.com reported earlier Wednesday, after the Kings were unsuccessful packaging Miller and Salmons in a deal with New York.

The Chicago-Sacramento trade is likely to be finalized later Wednesday, but one source close to the process cautioned that the deal could still be expanded to include additional players.

Another source indicated that the Kings had hoped to convince Chicago to accept center Mikki Moore instead of Salmons so Sacramento could trade Salmons in a separate move. The Bulls, though, want Salmons and the Kings did not oppose it because of long-term financial savings they're gaining from the trade.

Miller is averaging 11.9 points and 8.0 rebounds per game for the 11-43 Kings. One of the better passing big men in the league, Miller has made two All-Star teams and actually played for the Bulls from 2000-02.

This will be the third team for Salmons in his seven-year career. He is averaging a career high 18.3 points per game, well above his career mark of 8.3.

The gritty Nocioni has played his entire five-year career with the Bulls, averaging 11.7 points and 5.0 rebounds over that time bouncing between the starting five and the bench. He signed a five-year extension in 2007.


Gooden was traded to the Bulls last season in the deal that sent Ben Wallace to the Cleveland Cavaliers. He was averaging 13.1 points and 8.6 rebounds in an injury-plagued year. The number that likely interested the Kings the most, however, is the $7.2 million that will come off their books this summer since he has an expiring contract. Simmons also has an expiring contract, so the Kings basically traded the salaries of Miller and Salmons for Nocioni's.

"I enjoyed my time in Chicago," Gooden said, according to the Tribune. "It's a good bunch of guys and great management. They treat players with respect. I just wish we had won more and I had been healthier."

The Sacramento Bee reported on its Web site Wednesday that the Kings also offered Miller and Salmons to New Jersey in a deal that would net Ryan Anderson, Stromile Swift, Trenton Hassell and Eduardo Najera.

Chicago's ability to land Salmons would deeply disappoint two Southwest Division rivals -- Dallas and San Antonio -- which have been chasing the 29-year-old. Portland and Oklahoma City have also been frequently linked with Salmons.

With an offer of Bruce Bowen and Ime Udoka, San Antonio viewed Salmons as a far more affordable trade target for its perimeter rotation than Vince Carter. New Jersey's Carter has tempted the small-market Spurs for days but can be absorbed by them only in a hugely expensive and complicated deal.

The Mavericks have been offering Jerry Stackhouse's virtual expiring contract ($7 million this season, only $2 million guaranteed next season) to the Kings since this past summer, when Sacramento was shopping Ron Artest. The biggest obstacle for Dallas on a Salmons deal had been the Kings' insistence that the Mavericks -- lacking draft picks to sweeten the deal -- also take back guard Beno Udrih, who has four years and nearly $27 million remaining on his contract after this season.

There has been another complication for interested parties: Sources revealed Tuesday that Salmons has a 15 percent trade kicker in his contract that requires the team that acquires him to pay him a bonus of nearly $2 million and add that figure to its payroll. Salmons otherwise would rank as one of the league's better bargains, earning just $5.1 million this season while averaging 18.3 points and shooting 47.2 percent from the field and 41.8 percent on 3-pointers.


Chris Sheridan covers the NBA for ESPN Insider. Chris Broussard covers the NBA for ESPN The Magazine. ESPN.com's Marc Stein contributed to this report.

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This trade is pending if the Kings can land anyone big this summer, otherwise it's a total failure. No picks, contracts are about the same, and 2 bench players in return.
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Kings landing someone big? lol Another funny by you. Keep em coming.
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Kings landing someone big? lol Another funny by you. Keep em coming.
Eddy Curry might be available, so fk off.
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