Re: Why do you think Michael Curry hasn't been fired yet?
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Originally Posted by boozehound
he built that roster. When he took over this team was so far removed from the playoffs it wasnt funny. he built that team (brought in rip, chancy, sheed, ben wallace, drafted prince, memo, maxxy). you have no idea what you are talking about. when was he "handed" this supposed great team, who was on the roster and what was their record the previous season? Oh yeah.....
Correct! Dumars built this:
When Dumars brought in Michael Curry and Allen Iverson, both moves seemed reasonably good. Nobody, including Joe D himself would've thought everything would be as bad as it is right now. I still feel like he's slipping a bit because he hasn't made any adjustments before the deadline and he should've fired Curry IMO.. let's see what happens this offseason.. Ife doesnt improve the roster and coaching staff he should be fired..
Re: Why do you think Michael Curry hasn't been fired yet?
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Originally Posted by AznTacoLover
not his fault. it's AI's fault..
Well.. He just isn't in any way the player they needed. Just feel bad for blaming a guy that tries and wants to win (but can't ). Bad trade by Joe D and Curry is nog doing a great job coaching this bunch. Billups is heavily missed.
Re: Why do you think Michael Curry hasn't been fired yet?
I guarantee you give Nelson, D Antoni, or any of the good coaches in the league the reigns of this team and they are much better. Good coaches make adjustments, they do what they have to do. When these coaches can win with literally no talent, and 1/2 the talent the Piston's currently have, then you have to blame these noob coaches. It was the same way with the SUn's, they have entirely way too much talent to pretend it was just the players and not Porter at all like the 'defense' preachers always pretend putting these scrub coaches that haven't ever proved **** on some pedestal, just because they preach defense
Way too many people make excuses for them which would be fine if the teams didn't have talent, but many of them do, and it just goes to show who the bad coaches are vs the good ones in the league. And there are/were a lot of filler bad coaches in the league right now.
Re: Why do you think Michael Curry hasn't been fired yet?
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Originally Posted by kentatm
well lets see. what did Avery do when he was handed a perennial 50 win team that had been to the WCFs just two years before shall we? Here is just a sample.
It took a stupid foul by Manu and a herculean effort fro Dirk to prevent Avery from blowing a 3-1 lead against the Spurs. They figured out his gameplan and he never adjusted. He couldn't make adjustments in the Finals and blew a 2-0 lead. He just kept trying the same damn thing regardless of the fact that Miami had figured it out. He refused to play Marquis Daniels even though he was the best player to match up with Wade b/c he could slow him down defensively and forced him to also play D.
he had a 67 win team and had the chance to stop the Warriors, the team that matched up better with them than any other team, from even making the playoffs in the last game of the year but instead choose rest the players. He then played right into Don Nelsons hands and changed his starting lineup against GS and proceeded to have Nellie coach circles around him, again NEVER deviating from his game plan even though it clearly was not working.
He flat out lies when he says he didnt support trading Harris for Kidd. The first thing he said when he got Kidd was he was thrilled to finally have a leader who knew what to do with the ball late in games and could set up the offense. He then proceeds to turn Kidd into a weak side spot up shooter, benches him at the end of tight games, refuses to let Kidd run the offense and makes all the calls from the bench therby negating the strengths of Kidd. Proceeds to have Byron Scott coach circles around him. Got them to sign Tyronne Lue to be a backup PG in the playoffs and then for some reason takes him off the active roster in the playoffs and plays JJ Barea in a critical game 5. JJ had not seen the court in nearly 2 months when he did this.
His handling of Kidd also proved he was actually what was holding Devin Harris back as the kid was NEVER allowed to run the offense himself and every little mistake would get him yanked. This year is simply more proof Harris should have been given more freedom.
He tried to turn Dirk into Tim Duncan making him play away from his strengths and forcing him into offensive spots he was less equipped to succeed in. Avery also banned Holger Geschwindner from being near the team. The guy is Dirks personal coach, confidant and the man that always comes to work with him when he hits a slump. To put it simply, he is the man who created Dirk. Avery claimed Dirk should not have to have a security blanket. Avery of course ignored his own hypocrisy in that he himself hired his OWN personal security blanket in the form of his high school coach.
He refused to listen to input from other coaches and forced Del Harris off the bench b/c he didnt like the players going to him when they got into Averys dog house. Of course as soon as he did this, the Mavs became insanely predictable to gameplan.
He NEVER took the blame for ANYTHING that went wrong but EVERY success was b/c of him. If a player had a bad game, it was THEIR fault. If he made a poor decision with the gameplan, the players just didnt execute. If they were hurt, they were just dogging it. Meanwhile Avery, actually tried to take credit for Dirk getting the MVP claiming it was his influence that led to it. he damn near said "I'm glad Dirk let me turn him into an MVP" when he was first asked about it by the Dallas media. Getting to the Finals? All him. Losing? Players didnt work hard enough. He literally would not talk to you if you got in his doghouse. He wouldnt even tell you why he was mad. He would ignore you like you didnt exist. If reporters ever questioned him he would treat them like they were the dumbest people ever to walk the earth.
About half the team went to Cuban in the offseason and told them if Avery stayed, they wanted out.
there is just so much to go into i would have to sit down and write it out like a damn college thesis. The dude is a major ego maniac that cannot make any in game adjustments and has a severe superiority complex/.
This should be sticky'd. I swear its like 3/4's of NBA fans think Avery was some great coach because he rode Nelson's wave, and they just play connect the dots. I think people forget Nelson left that team in great shape, it wasn't like Nelson got fired, more than leaving for more control.
Re: Why do you think Michael Curry hasn't been fired yet?
This isnt entirely Currys fault. Dumars is the one who sent their leader packing in exchange for the most difficult player to adjust to in the league. Its not an easy task acquiring a star of AI's caliber after the season starts and beiong expected to keep the winning ways. He is at fault for the lack of motivation by the players bc that is really his job. But overall, the situation is a mess and the guys they have do not compliment each other. I wouldve gone with dealing Sheed instead of Billups
Re: Why do you think Michael Curry hasn't been fired yet?
In this current economic climate, plus the fact that the Pistons aren't selling out all their games anymore, and a very uncertain future for that region as a whole, it would be fiscally irresponsible to be paying 3 coaches at once.
Re: Why do you think Michael Curry hasn't been fired yet?
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Originally Posted by mlh1981
In this current economic climate, plus the fact that the Pistons aren't selling out all their games anymore, and a very uncertain future for that region as a whole, it would be fiscally irresponsible to be paying 3 coaches at once.
slide laimbeer over on his shock contract and move curry to the shock
Re: Why do you think Michael Curry hasn't been fired yet?
Ya know, although it doesn't seem to be working out as well as planned, I really liked the hiring of Bernie Bickerstaff and Del Harris as assistants in Chicago. They gave the team to a rookie coach, but surrounded him with 942 combined years of NBA experience with Harris and Bickerstaff. I wanted the Pistons to do that with Curry if they were dedicated to him, give him smart, veteran assistants to help his growing pains.
But, instead, no dice. And it doesn't seem to be working very well in Chicago either. But it seemed like such a good idea at the time.
Re: Why do you think Michael Curry hasn't been fired yet?
The Pistons usually wait until the end of the season before they fire people. They (front office) will take their lumps now and then boot Curry at the end.
What impresses me the most is, knowing that the Pistons can't pin this terrible season on my boy Flip Saunders. For 2 years, Flip was the scapegoat for the Pistons and their fans. Now we see how terrible the Pistons really are.
Re: Why do you think Michael Curry hasn't been fired yet?
). Bad trade by Joe D and Curry is nog doing a great job coaching this bunch. Billups is heavily missed.
