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Old 02-26-2009, 02:47 PM   #31
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Another thought, how can you list Ulysses but not Finnegans Wake, which is the vastly superior work.
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Another thought, how can you list Ulysses but not Finnegans Wake, which is the vastly superior work.
I've read Portrait and most of Dubliners' stories but Ulysses is such a huge time investment, might read it this summer though.
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BBC reckons most people have only read 6 of the following 100 books. Copy the list and put an X before the books you have read. This is not a greatest book of all time list. It is merely a list that features a cross section of books that the majority of English speaking Westerners have probably read or come across.


[] 1 Pride and Prejudice - Jane Austen
[ ] 2 The Lord of the Rings - JRR Tolkien
[] 3 Jane Eyre - Charlotte Bronte
[] 4 Harry Potter series - JK Rowling
[] 5 To Kill a Mockingbird - Harper Lee
[] 6 The Bible
[] 7 Wuthering Heights - Emily Bronte
[] 8 Nineteen Eighty Four - George Orwell
[ ] 9 His Dark Materials - Philip Pullman
[ ] 10 Great Expectations - Charles Dickens (through part 1. Spark noted the rest b/c the book was so boring)
[ ] 11 Little Women - Louisa M Alcott
[ ] 12 Tess of the DíUrbervilles - Thomas Hardy
[ ] 13 Catch 22 - Joseph Heller
[] 14 Complete Works of Shakespeare
[ ] 15 Rebecca - Daphne Du Maurier
[ ] 16 The Hobbit - JRR Tolkien
[ ] 17 Birdsong - Sebastian Faulk
[] 18 Catcher in the Rye - JD Salinger
[ ] 19 The Time Travellerís Wife - Audrey Niffenegger
[ ] 20 Middlemarch - George Eliot
[ ] 21 Gone With The Wind - Margaret Mitchell
[] 22 The Great Gatsby - F Scott Fitzgerald(only didnt spark note it b/c the book was so short. Boring book as well)
[ ] 23 Bleak House - Charles Dickens
[] 24 War and Peace - Leo Tolstoy
[] 25 The Hitch Hikerís Guide to the Galaxy - Douglas Adams
[ ] 26 Brideshead Revisited - Evelyn Waugh
[] 27 Crime and Punishment - Fyodor Dostoyevsky
[ ] 28 Grapes of Wrath - John Steinbeck
[] 29 Alice in Wonderland - Lewis Carroll
[] 30 The Wind in the Willows - Kenneth Grahame
[ ] 31 Anna Karenina - Leo Tolstoy
[] 32 David Copperfield - Charles Dickens
[ ] 33 Chronicles of Narnia - CS Lewis
[ ] 34 Emma - Jane Austen
[ ] 35 Persuasion - Jane Austen
[ ] 36 The Lion, The Witch and The Wardrobe - CS Lewis
[ ] 37 The Kite Runner - Khaled Hosseini
[ ] 38 Captain Corelliís Mandolin - Louis De Bernieres
[ ] 39 Memoirs of a Geisha - Arthur Golden
[ ] 40 Winnie the Pooh - AA Milne
[ ] 41 Animal Farm - George Orwell
[ ] 42 The Da Vinci Code - Dan Brown
[ ] 43 One Hundred Years of Solitude - Gabriel Garcia Marquez
[ ] 44 A Prayer for Owen Meaney - John Irving
[ ] 45 The Woman in White - Wilkie Collins
[ ] 46 Anne of Green Gables - LM Montgomery
[ ] 47 Far From The Madding Crowd - Thomas Hardy
[ ] 48 The Handmaidís Tale - Margaret Atwood
[ ] 49 Lord of the Flies - William Golding (didnt spark note this one though. Fantastic book. IT was actually readable)
[ ] 50 Atonement - Ian McEwan
[ ] 51 Life of Pi - Yann Martel
[ ] 52 Dune - Frank Herbert
[ 53 Cold Comfort Farm - Stella Gibbons
[ ] 54 Sense and Sensibility - Jane Austen
[ ] 55 A Suitable Boy - Vikram Seth
[ ] 56 The Shadow of the Wind - Carlos Ruiz Zafon
[] 57 A Tale Of Two Cities - Charles Dickens
[ ] 58 Brave New World - Aldous Huxley
[ ] 59 The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night-time - Mark Haddon
[ ] 60 Love In The Time Of Cholera - Gabriel Garcia Marquez
[] 61 Of Mice and Men - John Steinbeck
[ ] 62 Lolita - Vladimir Nabokov
[ ] 63 The Secret History - Donna Tartt
[ ] 64 The Lovely Bones - Alice Sebold
[ ] 65 Count of Monte Cristo - Alexandre Dumas
[] 66 On The Road - Jack Kerouac
[ ] 67 Jude the Obscure - Thomas Hardy
[ ] 68 Bridget Jonesís Diary - Helen Fielding
[ ] 69 Midnightís Children - Salman Rushdie
[] 70 Moby Dick - Herman Melville
[] 71 Oliver Twist - Charles Dickens
[ ] 72 Dracula - Bram Stoker
[ ] 73 The Secret Garden - Frances Hodgson Burnett
[ ] 74 Notes From A Small Island - Bill Bryson
[] 75 Ulysses - James Joyce
[ ] 76 The Bell Jar - Sylvia Plath
[ ] 77 Swallows and Amazons - Arthur Ransome
[ ] 78 Germinal - Emile Zola
[ ] 79 Vanity Fair - William Makepeace Thackeray
[ ] 80 Possession - AS Byatt
[ ] 81 A Christmas Carol - Charles Dickens
[ ] 82 Cloud Atlas - David Mitchell
[] 83 The Color Purple - Alice Walker
[ ] 84 The Remains of the Day - Kazuo Ishiguro
[ ] 85 Madame Bovary - Gustave Flaubert
[ ] 86 A Fine Balance - Rohinton Mistry
[] 87 Charlotteís Web - EB White
[ ] 88 The Five People You Meet In Heaven - Mitch Alborn
[] 89 Adventures of Sherlock Holmes - Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
[ ] 90 The Faraway Tree Collection - Enid Blyton
[ ] 91 Heart of Darkness - Joseph Conrad
[] 92 The Little Prince - Antoine De Saint-Exupery
[ ] 93 The Wasp Factory - Iain Banks
[] 94 Watership Down - Richard Adams
[ ] 95 A Confederacy of Dunces - John Kennedy Toole
[ ] 96 A Town Like Alice - Nevil Shute
[ ] 97 The Three Musketeers - Alexandre Dumas
[] 98 Hamlet - William Shakespeare
[ ] 99 Charlie and the Chocolate Factory - Roald Dahl
[] 100 Les Miserables - Victor Hugo

http://www.bbc.co.uk/arts/bigread/top100.shtml

I have probably read up to a third of this list, and I know the plots and characters of 3/4 through movies and/or word of mouth.

6 if you want to count Great Expectations with spark notes and 5 if you dont count it.

I don't read.
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[] 1 Pride and Prejudice - Jane Austen
[ x] 2 The Lord of the Rings - JRR Tolkien
[x] 3 Jane Eyre - Charlotte Bronte
[] 4 Harry Potter series - JK Rowling
[x] 5 To Kill a Mockingbird - Harper Lee
[x] 6 The Bible
[] 7 Wuthering Heights - Emily Bronte
[x] 8 Nineteen Eighty Four - George Orwell
[ ] 9 His Dark Materials - Philip Pullman
[ ] 10 Great Expectations - Charles Dickens
[ ] 11 Little Women - Louisa M Alcott
[ ] 12 Tess of the DíUrbervilles - Thomas Hardy
[ x] 13 Catch 22 - Joseph Heller
[] 14 Complete Works of Shakespeare
[ ] 15 Rebecca - Daphne Du Maurier
[x] 16 The Hobbit - JRR Tolkien
[ ] 17 Birdsong - Sebastian Faulk
[x] 18 Catcher in the Rye - JD Salinger
[ ] 19 The Time Travellerís Wife - Audrey Niffenegger
[ ] 20 Middlemarch - George Eliot
[ ] 21 Gone With The Wind - Margaret Mitchell
[x] 22 The Great Gatsby - F Scott Fitzgerald
[ ] 23 Bleak House - Charles Dickens
[] 24 War and Peace - Leo Tolstoy
[] 25 The Hitch Hikerís Guide to the Galaxy - Douglas Adams
[ ] 26 Brideshead Revisited - Evelyn Waugh
[] 27 Crime and Punishment - Fyodor Dostoyevsky
[ x] 28 Grapes of Wrath - John Steinbeck
[x] 29 Alice in Wonderland - Lewis Carroll
[] 30 The Wind in the Willows - Kenneth Grahame
[ ] 31 Anna Karenina - Leo Tolstoy
[] 32 David Copperfield - Charles Dickens
[x ] 33 Chronicles of Narnia - CS Lewis
[ ] 34 Emma - Jane Austen
[ ] 35 Persuasion - Jane Austen
[x ] 36 The Lion, The Witch and The Wardrobe - CS Lewis (ummm, it was also listed at #33)
[ ] 37 The Kite Runner - Khaled Hosseini
[ ] 38 Captain Corelliís Mandolin - Louis De Bernieres
[ ] 39 Memoirs of a Geisha - Arthur Golden
[ x] 40 Winnie the Pooh - AA Milne
[x ] 41 Animal Farm - George Orwell
[ ] 42 The Da Vinci Code - Dan Brown
[ ] 43 One Hundred Years of Solitude - Gabriel Garcia Marquez
[ ] 44 A Prayer for Owen Meaney - John Irving
[ ] 45 The Woman in White - Wilkie Collins
[movie ] 46 Anne of Green Gables - LM Montgomery
[ ] 47 Far From The Madding Crowd - Thomas Hardy
[ ] 48 The Handmaidís Tale - Margaret Atwood
[ x] 49 Lord of the Flies - William Golding
[ ] 50 Atonement - Ian McEwan
[ ] 51 Life of Pi - Yann Martel
[ movie] 52 Dune - Frank Herbert
[ 53 Cold Comfort Farm - Stella Gibbons
[ ] 54 Sense and Sensibility - Jane Austen
[ ] 55 A Suitable Boy - Vikram Seth
[ ] 56 The Shadow of the Wind - Carlos Ruiz Zafon
[] 57 A Tale Of Two Cities - Charles Dickens
[ ] 58 Brave New World - Aldous Huxley
[ ] 59 The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night-time - Mark Haddon
[ ] 60 Love In The Time Of Cholera - Gabriel Garcia Marquez
[] 61 Of Mice and Men - John Steinbeck
[ ] 62 Lolita - Vladimir Nabokov
[ ] 63 The Secret History - Donna Tartt
[ ] 64 The Lovely Bones - Alice Sebold
[ ] 65 Count of Monte Cristo - Alexandre Dumas
[] 66 On The Road - Jack Kerouac
[ ] 67 Jude the Obscure - Thomas Hardy
[ ] 68 Bridget Jonesís Diary - Helen Fielding
[ ] 69 Midnightís Children - Salman Rushdie
[] 70 Moby Dick - Herman Melville
[x] 71 Oliver Twist - Charles Dickens
[ ] 72 Dracula - Bram Stoker
[ ] 73 The Secret Garden - Frances Hodgson Burnett
[ ] 74 Notes From A Small Island - Bill Bryson
[] 75 Ulysses - James Joyce
[ ] 76 The Bell Jar - Sylvia Plath
[ ] 77 Swallows and Amazons - Arthur Ransome
[ ] 78 Germinal - Emile Zola
[ ] 79 Vanity Fair - William Makepeace Thackeray
[ ] 80 Possession - AS Byatt
[ ] 81 A Christmas Carol - Charles Dickens
[ ] 82 Cloud Atlas - David Mitchell
[] 83 The Color Purple - Alice Walker
[ ] 84 The Remains of the Day - Kazuo Ishiguro
[ ] 85 Madame Bovary - Gustave Flaubert
[ ] 86 A Fine Balance - Rohinton Mistry
[] 87 Charlotteís Web - EB White
[ ] 88 The Five People You Meet In Heaven - Mitch Alborn
[] 89 Adventures of Sherlock Holmes - Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
[ ] 90 The Faraway Tree Collection - Enid Blyton
[ ] 91 Heart of Darkness - Joseph Conrad
[] 92 The Little Prince - Antoine De Saint-Exupery
[ ] 93 The Wasp Factory - Iain Banks
[] 94 Watership Down - Richard Adams
[ ] 95 A Confederacy of Dunces - John Kennedy Toole
[ ] 96 A Town Like Alice - Nevil Shute
[ ] 97 The Three Musketeers - Alexandre Dumas
[x] 98 Hamlet - William Shakespeare
[ ] 99 Charlie and the Chocolate Factory - Roald Dahl
[] 100 Les Miserables - Victor Hugo



3/4's of my x's were dumbass required reading growing up. I swear 3/4's of the books i read that were considered 'literary classics' were just bad and boring Only book i read that really impressed me a lot was Machiavelli's The Prince. All of that Tom Sawyer - Huckleberry Fin, Black boy, even stuff like Chaucer's Canterbury Tales or the Plague were just bad. I don't remember half of them since they were a while back but it kind of makes me laugh how one person's perspective of "great reading" is another person's "boring as ****, why am i forced to read this garbage?"
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I've read Portrait and most of Dubliners' stories but Ulysses is such a huge time investment, might read it this summer though.

A tough read. I don't see the so-called "genius" in it that so many claim. Madness maybe, but genius no.
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True. One of the best nonfiction/fiction works of the 20th century.
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[ ] 1 Pride and Prejudice - Jane Austen
[x] 2 The Lord of the Rings - JRR Tolkien
[ ] 3 Jane Eyre - Charlotte Bronte
[x] 4 Harry Potter series - JK Rowling
[x] 5 To Kill a Mockingbird - Harper Lee
[x] 6 The Bible
[] 7 Wuthering Heights - Emily Bronte
[x] 8 Nineteen Eighty Four - George Orwell
[ ] 9 His Dark Materials - Philip Pullman
[x] 10 Great Expectations - Charles Dickens
[ ] 11 Little Women - Louisa M Alcott
[ ] 12 Tess of the DíUrbervilles - Thomas Hardy
[ ] 13 Catch 22 - Joseph Heller
[ ] 14 Complete Works of Shakespeare
[ ] 15 Rebecca - Daphne Du Maurier
[x] 16 The Hobbit - JRR Tolkien
[ ] 17 Birdsong - Sebastian Faulk
[x] 18 Catcher in the Rye - JD Salinger
[ ] 19 The Time Travellerís Wife - Audrey Niffenegger
[ ] 20 Middlemarch - George Eliot
[x] 21 Gone With The Wind - Margaret Mitchell
[x] 22 The Great Gatsby - F Scott Fitzgerald
[ ] 23 Bleak House - Charles Dickens
[] 24 War and Peace - Leo Tolstoy
[] 25 The Hitch Hikerís Guide to the Galaxy - Douglas Adams
[ ] 26 Brideshead Revisited - Evelyn Waugh
[] 27 Crime and Punishment - Fyodor Dostoyevsky
[x] 28 Grapes of Wrath - John Steinbeck
[] 29 Alice in Wonderland - Lewis Carroll
[] 30 The Wind in the Willows - Kenneth Grahame
[ ] 31 Anna Karenina - Leo Tolstoy
[] 32 David Copperfield - Charles Dickens
[ ] 33 Chronicles of Narnia - CS Lewis
[ ] 34 Emma - Jane Austen
[ ] 35 Persuasion - Jane Austen
[x] 36 The Lion, The Witch and The Wardrobe - CS Lewis
[ ] 37 The Kite Runner - Khaled Hosseini
[ ] 38 Captain Corelliís Mandolin - Louis De Bernieres
[ ] 39 Memoirs of a Geisha - Arthur Golden
[ ] 40 Winnie the Pooh - AA Milne
[x] 41 Animal Farm - George Orwell
[ ] 42 The Da Vinci Code - Dan Brown
[ ] 43 One Hundred Years of Solitude - Gabriel Garcia Marquez
[ ] 44 A Prayer for Owen Meaney - John Irving
[ ] 45 The Woman in White - Wilkie Collins
[ ] 46 Anne of Green Gables - LM Montgomery
[ ] 47 Far From The Madding Crowd - Thomas Hardy
[ ] 48 The Handmaidís Tale - Margaret Atwood
[x] 49 Lord of the Flies - William Golding
[ ] 50 Atonement - Ian McEwan
[ ] 51 Life of Pi - Yann Martel
[ ] 52 Dune - Frank Herbert
[ ] 53 Cold Comfort Farm - Stella Gibbons
[ ] 54 Sense and Sensibility - Jane Austen
[ ] 55 A Suitable Boy - Vikram Seth
[ ] 56 The Shadow of the Wind - Carlos Ruiz Zafon
[x] 57 A Tale Of Two Cities - Charles Dickens
[ ] 58 Brave New World - Aldous Huxley
[ ] 59 The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night-time - Mark Haddon
[ ] 60 Love In The Time Of Cholera - Gabriel Garcia Marquez
[x] 61 Of Mice and Men - John Steinbeck
[ ] 62 Lolita - Vladimir Nabokov
[ ] 63 The Secret History - Donna Tartt
[ ] 64 The Lovely Bones - Alice Sebold
[ ] 65 Count of Monte Cristo - Alexandre Dumas
[ ] 66 On The Road - Jack Kerouac
[ ] 67 Jude the Obscure - Thomas Hardy
[ ] 68 Bridget Jonesís Diary - Helen Fielding
[ ] 69 Midnightís Children - Salman Rushdie
[x] 70 Moby Dick - Herman Melville
[x] 71 Oliver Twist - Charles Dickens
[ ] 72 Dracula - Bram Stoker
[ ] 73 The Secret Garden - Frances Hodgson Burnett
[ ] 74 Notes From A Small Island - Bill Bryson
[x] 75 Ulysses - James Joyce
[ ] 76 The Bell Jar - Sylvia Plath
[ ] 77 Swallows and Amazons - Arthur Ransome
[ ] 78 Germinal - Emile Zola
[ ] 79 Vanity Fair - William Makepeace Thackeray
[ ] 80 Possession - AS Byatt
[ ] 81 A Christmas Carol - Charles Dickens
[ ] 82 Cloud Atlas - David Mitchell
[x] 83 The Color Purple - Alice Walker
[ ] 84 The Remains of the Day - Kazuo Ishiguro
[ ] 85 Madame Bovary - Gustave Flaubert
[ ] 86 A Fine Balance - Rohinton Mistry
[x] 87 Charlotteís Web - EB White
[ ] 88 The Five People You Meet In Heaven - Mitch Alborn
[ ] 89 Adventures of Sherlock Holmes - Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
[ ] 90 The Faraway Tree Collection - Enid Blyton
[ ] 91 Heart of Darkness - Joseph Conrad
[] 92 The Little Prince - Antoine De Saint-Exupery
[ ] 93 The Wasp Factory - Iain Banks
[ ] 94 Watership Down - Richard Adams
[ ] 95 A Confederacy of Dunces - John Kennedy Toole
[ ] 96 A Town Like Alice - Nevil Shute
[ ] 97 The Three Musketeers - Alexandre Dumas
[x] 98 Hamlet - William Shakespeare
[x] 99 Charlie and the Chocolate Factory - Roald Dahl
[ ] 100 Les Miserables - Victor Hugo

I used to read a lot.. still not even half tho. Most are from school, but a couple of 'em I checked out on my own when I cared about learning.
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3/4's of my x's were dumbass required reading growing up. I swear 3/4's of the books i read that were considered 'literary classics' were just bad and boring Only book i read that really impressed me a lot was Machiavelli's The Prince. All of that Tom Sawyer - Huckleberry Fin, Black boy, even stuff like Chaucer's Canterbury Tales or the Plague were just bad. I don't remember half of them since they were a while back but it kind of makes me laugh how one person's perspective of "great reading" is another person's "boring as ****, why am i forced to read this garbage?"
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Because all English majors with any pride at all get Ulysses in a class, while only twelve people currently living have actually read all of Finnegans Wake. Actual statistic.
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And at least 3 of them post at ISH? Jeff should be proud.

I read probably 30-40 of those books. So many great books not on the list. Some of those books are far superior to others on the list. No surprise since it's a poll done in Britain hence the abundance of Jane Austen as such. lol
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