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Old 03-01-2009, 12:15 PM   #1
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Honestly, there is someone on the raps who is a chemistry killer. And to be honest, all signs point to Andrea Bargnani. We have a quick game, unless Bargs is on the floor. Pausing the ball at the top of the key, taking every shot he can take (no matter the shot selection), all of his drives are not thought out, etc.

For this team to excel the way it is supposed to, he must go.
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jcpr3 is the chemistry killer on this board.
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Old 03-01-2009, 12:55 PM   #3
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Honestly, there is someone on the raps who is a chemistry killer. And to be honest, all signs point to Andrea Bargnani. We have a quick game, unless Bargs is on the floor. Pausing the ball at the top of the key, taking every shot he can take (no matter the shot selection), all of his drives are not thought out, etc.

For this team to excel the way it is supposed to, he must go.
You are so far off with Andrea, i gotta wonder if you actually watch him. The guy is an amazing shooter, can drive, play defence, has some toughness and will be an allstar within two years. On top of that he has great basketball smarts and will improve in leaps and bounds yet. The chemistry killer on the Raps is their lack of mental toughness. The never say die gritty attitude. A major infusion of athleticism is also needed. They are about 4 quality players away from being a true contender! Probably best to blow it up and start over with Andrea and Calderon as the focal points. If you can't sign Chris in the offseaon he needs to be traded for quality pieces, in order to begin to rebuild this team. Having said that, love Marions game, smart, great in traffic and some nice athletism, he might be a nice veteran presence to keep as we rebuild if he chooses to stay. Definitely worth 10 mil a year even at this stage of his career.
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Old 03-01-2009, 12:58 PM   #4
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Default Re: Who is the chemistry killer?

I'm not gonna call him a chemistry killer but he is a ball-stopper on the ofensive side. His game doesn't really mesh too well with other players and guys can't feed off him in that way.
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Old 03-01-2009, 01:08 PM   #5
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Honestly, there is someone on the raps who is a chemistry killer. And to be honest, all signs point to Andrea Bargnani. We have a quick game, unless Bargs is on the floor. Pausing the ball at the top of the key, taking every shot he can take (no matter the shot selection), all of his drives are not thought out, etc.

For this team to excel the way it is supposed to, he must go.
You are so far off with Andrea, i gotta wonder if you actually watch him. The guy is an amazing shooter, can drive, play defence, has some toughness and will be an allstar within two years. On top of that he has great basketball smarts and will improve in leaps and bounds yet. The chemistry killer on the Raps is their lack of mental toughness. The never say die gritty attitude. A major infusion of athleticism is also needed. They are about 4 quality players away from being a true contender! Probably best to blow it up and start over with Andrea and Calderon as the focal points. If you can't sign Chris in the offseaon he needs to be traded for quality pieces, in order to begin to rebuild this team. Having said that, love Marions game, smart, great in traffic and some nice athletism, he might be a nice veteran presence to keep as we rebuild if he chooses to stay. Definitely worth 10 mil a year even at this stage of his career.
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Old 03-01-2009, 01:14 PM   #6
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Default Re: Who is the chemistry killer?

Damn remember that starting lineup in 2006 of Ford/Parker/Garbo/Bosh and Rasho? Talent wise, it wasn't too impressive but that lineup worked really well in the halfcourt. It's really noticeable how much the Raps miss that big who would consistently go inside after loose balls for tapouts.
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Damn remember that starting lineup in 2006 of Ford/Parker/Garbo/Bosh and Rasho? Talent wise, it wasn't too impressive but that lineup worked really well in the halfcourt. It's really noticeable how much the Raps miss that big who would consistently go inside after loose balls for tapouts.
That's why I think that "talent" is such an over-used word in this league. For example if you asked who had more talent between Andre Miller and Allen Iverson, most people would probably say Iverson. But which one of those two would you rather have on your team? Most people would probably say Andre Miller. You have to put together a team where all of the pieces fit together properly and one players weaknesses are another players strengths. As much as I've not wanted to admit, we're not a team that's one or two pieces away from being a contender. We are a team that's flawed down to the very core and we're gonna have to live with several years of mediocrity (at best) because of that.
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Default Re: Who is the chemistry killer?

This guy can honestly do no right. He plays poorly, he's a bust. He plays well, he a shot chucker, and an offense killer.

The guy's a 7 footer who can run the floor like people want this team to do (maybe better than 90% of bigs in the league), and has been shooting 46% (40% from 3) since entering the starting line-up. He gets to the line (Avg 5 a game, 80%) the second most of the team (2 less than Bosh, per game). Obviously there are areas everyone would like him to improve more (D, rebounding), but the guy's clearly taken a big step...
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I think the team chemistry is due to make up of the team. What is chemistry really? Its not like we have the talent to do anything anyways. This is the year where all the hidden flaws of players came out. Calerdon can't guard a pylon, Bosh struggles in crunch time, etc. The players don't complement each other well. Ford was much more suited for this team than Calerdon will ever be. Anyways, got off track alittle with the whole T.J stuff. At the end of the day, you can't blame the only guy who has shown any sort of improvement for this teams lack of "chemistry" and lack of winning. The one thing Bargnani does wrong is look for his shot way too much, but with time, he'll learn to play within the offence better. No way he is the reason for this teams lack of chemistry, if there even is any lack of chemistry.
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Old 03-01-2009, 05:58 PM   #10
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Default Re: Who is the chemistry killer?

the problem with andrea bargnani is that it seems he does not have a plan when he is out there. He just seems to drive whenever he wants, throw shots from the perimeter or just walk around if he doesn't feel like it. Thats a chemistry problem and i agree.

i am just waiting for the guys to show up and blame Bosh.
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Default Re: Who is the chemistry killer?

I think Calderon's D is killing the team more than Bargnani stopping ball in the offensive end.
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the problem with andrea bargnani is that it seems he does not have a plan when he is out there. He just seems to drive whenever he wants, throw shots from the perimeter or just walk around if he doesn't feel like it. Thats a chemistry problem and i agree.

i am just waiting for the guys to show up and blame Bosh.

The problem with Andrea is that he is one of the best players on this team and he's proving many of you wrong.

And now it's "chemistry killer", you guys are funny.
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Trade Bargnani while his stock is high...I don't care what you guys think, but I think that it might be best if we get a banger at the 2 guard or at center so we can get physical toughness...
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Trade Bargnani while his stock is high...I don't care what you guys think, but I think that it might be best if we get a banger at the 2 guard or at center so we can get physical toughness...

Bargnani is tougher than Bosh, plays better post defense (Still not that great) and is a lot bigger. But I really couldn't care less which one of the two gets traded but one has to go. The only way we win with the Killer Bs is if they put up 30 points each. Which rarely happens.

Sometimes I wish we could draft Teague or Jennings and trade Calderon for another high pick and draft Thabeet, Griffin or Hill. Then Bargnani or Bosh will be expendible to pick up the other guard we need. I'm tired of this weak ass team. We need to blow this the **** up.
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