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Old 01-19-2007, 11:18 PM   #1
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Default Discuss the Pistons struggles and to what extent Allen Iverson is to blame

Look at this Nuggets team, they were better without him. I can't see the Nuggets winning with Iverson, the Jazz will be better than the Nuggets at full health because of Iverson. His shot release is so ugly, he takes bad bad shots and he pounds the ball so much.

Anthony and Iverson will NOT work. Hopefully they prove me wrong, but I don't think so.

The thing about Iverson in Philly people said it was his teammates not being good enough etc etc but now he has good teammates he can't lead them anywhere.
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Old 01-19-2007, 11:19 PM   #2
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Look at this Nuggets team, they were better without him. I can't see the Nuggets winning with Iverson, the Jazz will be better than the Nuggets at full health because of Iverson. His shot release is so ugly, he takes bad bad shots and he pounds the ball so much.

Anthony and Iverson will NOT work. Hopefully they prove me wrong, but I don't think so.

The thing about Iverson in Philly people said it was his teammates not being good enough etc etc but now he has good teammates he can't lead them anywhere.

I kind of agree. He's still a chucker. I just hope his percentage goes up when Anthony comes back and starts taking away some of his shots.
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Old 01-19-2007, 11:21 PM   #3
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after camby what good team-mates does he have? smith has just comeback but before their roster was worse than what he had with philly.
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Old 01-19-2007, 11:22 PM   #4
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wait until melo has been back for a while to make a judgement.
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Old 01-19-2007, 11:22 PM   #5
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what have you been smoking? look at their roster in those losses, you'll notice that half the team was either injured or suspended. AI himself cannot win games, its a team game.
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Old 01-19-2007, 11:24 PM   #6
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after camby what good team-mates does he have? smith has just comeback but before their roster was worse than what he had with philly.

Camby, Nene, Smith, Evans and he had Boykins.

Evans is better than any forward on the 76ers.

Camby and Nene are both far better than Sammy.

Smith=Igoudala
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Old 01-19-2007, 11:28 PM   #7
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what have you been smoking? look at their roster in those losses, you'll notice that half the team was either injured or suspended. AI himself cannot win games, its a team game.

So you have unconditional AI-bias already? You're quick.

Kobe's teammates are very very average, but I see them winning.
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Old 01-19-2007, 11:31 PM   #8
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So you have unconditional AI-bias already? You're quick.

Kobe's teammates are very very average, but I see them winning.

odom isnt average
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Old 01-19-2007, 11:32 PM   #9
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So you have unconditional AI-bias already? You're quick.

Kobe's teammates are very very average, but I see them winning.

They been playing together longer. 2 years ago they weren't a playoff team.
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Old 01-19-2007, 11:33 PM   #10
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wait until melo has been back for a while to make a judgement.
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Old 01-19-2007, 11:36 PM   #11
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So you have unconditional AI-bias already? You're quick.

Kobe's teammates are very very average, but I see them winning.

I may come across a homer but I watch every nuggets game and during their loosing streak we were missing our two primary scorers, AI was still adjusting to our high tempo style and most of the games the nuggets were either missing Camby and or Nene which made our defence week inside. some of the games we only had one or three players comming off the bench. you add all those together and thats why we were loosing games. it was not AI's fault.
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Old 01-19-2007, 11:36 PM   #12
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Ced, I know you're trying to support your argument, but JR Smith is not on the same level as Andre Iguodala.
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Old 01-19-2007, 11:37 PM   #13
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odom isnt average

Youre right he's BELOW average.
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theyve been winning without him
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They've been winning without Kobe, does that make him below average? :
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