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Old 03-13-2009, 04:26 PM   #1
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Alright topic Black people.

Pregunta: What constitutes it?

Everybody in Africa need not be Blackright? Do the indigenous Saharn folks of Morocco and Egypt and Tunisia qualify under "Arab" or "black." Also were the Ancient Egyptians black?

Furthermore, South African Dutch settlements and Steve Nash be-a-likez. Not black right?

On the flipside African-American is a flawed term, and people from the Carribean Islands, Jamaica, Trinidad and Tobago, Madagascar, "Sicily?", etc. are. Like what if there are folks in South America jand India with very dark skin? Would they still be Indo-European.. Latino.. or black?

So How do you tell if a dude'z black lol!? Or is race just a flawed concept in gneral?
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Old 03-13-2009, 04:29 PM   #2
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So hold up are there like three typez of peepz at da start of history. Caucasoid, Negroid, and Mongoloid and supposedly we're all mixes of said trio? This race concept confuses moi.
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Old 03-13-2009, 04:40 PM   #3
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Alright topic Black people.

Pregunta: What constitutes it?

Everybody in Africa need not be Blackright? Do the indigenous Saharn folks of Morocco and Egypt and Tunisia qualify under "Arab" or "black." Also were the Ancient Egyptians black?

Furthermore, South African Dutch settlements and Steve Nash be-a-likez. Not black right?

On the flipside African-American is a flawed term, and people from the Carribean Islands, Jamaica, Trinidad and Tobago, Madagascar, "Sicily?", etc. are. Like what if there are folks in South America jand India with very dark skin? Would they still be Indo-European.. Latino.. or black?

So How do you tell if a dude'z black lol!? Or is race just a flawed concept in gneral?

wow. you americans are really obsessed with race for some reason. it is quite baffling.

race is a really flawed concept in general. scientists have concluded that different ethnicities of humans differ too little genetically from each other to be distinguished as different races. in other words, the only race we belong to is the human race (quite hippie yes but true).

and no, everybody from africa is not negroid, if we're gonna start talking about that. generally, the sub-sahara people are considered negroid and the egyptians, tunisians, etc are considered caucasoid.
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wow. you americans are really obsessed with race for some reason. it is quite baffling.

race is a really flawed concept in general. scientists have concluded that different ethnicities of humans differ too little genetically from each other to be distinguished as different races. in other words, the only race we belong to is the human race (quite hippie yes but true).

and no, everybody from africa is not negroid, if we're gonna start talking about that. generally, the sub-sahara people are considered negroid and the egyptians, tunisians, etc are considered caucasoid.

Uhhh thnx kindly for the effort but tell me something I don't know.
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racial categorizations vary by culture. there are no universals because its not a biologically valid concept. Race=FAIL
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Uhhh thnx kindly for the effort but tell me something I don't know.

thought i did. egyptians = not black. indian people with dark skin = not black.

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and no, everybody from africa is not negroid, if we're gonna start talking about that. generally, the sub-sahara people are considered negroid and the egyptians, tunisians, etc are considered caucasoid.
that would be correct. but again, not all racialists use three, really four (australoid) races. some use 30+
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racial categorizations vary by culture. there are no universals because its not a biologically valid concept. Race=FAIL

true. i'm speaking from a western perspective of course. race is just one big fail, damn right.
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Okay thank you. I will boycott bubble sheets from now on in honour of boozehound and ikosquared! Yay!
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Okay thank you. I will boycott bubble sheets from now on in honour of boozehound and ikosquared! Yay!
well, what did you want then? Black in the US = negroid, a variable combination of physical traits including skin pigment, hair form, facial metrics, etc that some dumb old ********* put together 100 years ago. but you dont need all of them, just some of them, but there is no lower limit. Its so variable as to be undefinable.
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